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  • Employers and landlords should not be banned from asking about any criminal history

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  • Employees and landlords should be banned from asking about any criminal history

    9 17.65%
  • Only employers should be banned from asking about any criminal history

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  • Only landlords should be banned from asking about any criminal history

    1 1.96%
  • Employers should be allowed to ask about crimes are "significantly related"

    1 1.96%
  • Landlords should be allowed to ask about crimes that are "significantly related"

    0 0%
  • Both should be allowed to ask about crimes that are "significantly related"

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    from my experience, most employers or landlords don't give a rat's ass if you got a DUI 25 years ago or if you smoked a little weed in college. those are the kind of "stupid mistakes" that I could forgive.

    I am hard pressed to think of a crime that would qualify as a "stupid mistake" that would keep someone from hiring you or renting you an apartment. can you help me out with a couple of examples?
    I guess this just shows how varying opinions can be, because unless I'm desperate to rent the place out, all else being equal a DUI years ago will mean I choose someone else.

    My son was nearly killed by a first-time DUI'er, so I give no slack.

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I guess this just shows how varying opinions can be, because unless I'm desperate to rent the place out, all else being equal a DUI years ago will mean I choose someone else.

    My son was nearly killed by a first-time DUI'er, so I give no slack.
    but if it was a choice between renting to some guy with a 25 y/o DUI or letting the place sit empty, which would you pick?
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    but if it was a choice between renting to some guy with a 25 y/o DUI or letting the place sit empty, which would you pick?
    I included qualifiers in my previous statement for a reason. I leave it to the reader to apply 5th grade level basic reading comprehension and surmise the likely outcomes as they play with the values of the variables.

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    from my experience, most employers or landlords don't give a rat's ass if you got a DUI 25 years ago or if you smoked a little weed in college. those are the kind of "stupid mistakes" that I could forgive.

    I am hard pressed to think of a crime that would qualify as a "stupid mistake" that would keep someone from hiring you or renting you an apartment. can you help me out with a couple of examples?
    Sure. There's the lazy landlord/employer who just auto-rejects EVERYONE who checks the "yes" box for that question because he doesn't want to have to make that judgment call. There's the landlord/employer who, for whatever reason, is just rubbed the wrong way by an applicant who has committed a certain type of crime regardless of whether it's relevant. That's why I'd like to see more laws limiting what information the landlord/employer is actually allowed to see and how long it stays on a criminal record.

    Look at it from the ex-con's perspective: Suppose he just got out of prison for doing something stupid, and he wants to clean up his act...but in order to do that he needs to get a job. Who is going to hire him with a recent criminal conviction? If he can't find a job, he's more likely to return to crime and end up right back in prison.
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Sure. There's the lazy landlord/employer who just auto-rejects EVERYONE who checks the "yes" box for that question because he doesn't want to have to make that judgment call. There's the landlord/employer who, for whatever reason, is just rubbed the wrong way by an applicant who has committed a certain type of crime regardless of whether it's relevant. That's why I'd like to see more laws limiting what information the landlord/employer is actually allowed to see and how long it stays on a criminal record.

    Look at it from the ex-con's perspective: Suppose he just got out of prison for doing something stupid, and he wants to clean up his act...but in order to do that he needs to get a job. Who is going to hire him with a recent criminal conviction? If he can't find a job, he's more likely to return to crime and end up right back in prison.
    can you be more specific on what you consider "something stupid"?
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    can you be more specific on what you consider "something stupid"?
    Stealing a car, breaking and entering, DUI, various drug-related offenses, etc.
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Stealing a car, breaking and entering, DUI, various drug-related offenses, etc.
    I have always thought most of the drug laws were ridiculous and I can, to some degree, see how you could drink more than you planned and wind up with a DUI. but, theft, b&e, etc all require some degree of premeditation so I don't consider crimes like those to be "stupid mistakes". you don't accidentally steal a car
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I have always thought most of the drug laws were ridiculous and I can, to some degree, see how you could drink more than you planned and wind up with a DUI. but, theft, b&e, etc all require some degree of premeditation so I don't consider crimes like those to be "stupid mistakes". you don't accidentally steal a car
    Prejudice against criminal offenses may be based on reasons which have nothing to do with one's opinion of the crime, also.

    Take a possession charge for using pot, for example. I personally have no issue with pot use. However, maybe I don't want a tenant getting that smell deep into the home, much like cigarettes and pets. I may not rent to you just because you're a smoker. The fact that what you smoke happens to be illegal has nothing to do with it, but if your criminal history says you smoke, all else being equal I'll pass you up.

    Also, maybe you got some stupid statutory rape charge long ago, not because you're a sexual predator but because her parents didn't like you and caught you on a legal technicality. Well, all else being equal, I may actually proffer you, because I know your options are limited, which means you're more reliable to pay on time, and will slightly add to the rent.
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    I read this thread and have to laugh...employers and landlords have the right in every state to do criminal background checks and most credit checks..
    They dont know what your crimes are until they do the checks...get over it...it will never change

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I read this thread and have to laugh...employers and landlords have the right in every state to do criminal background checks and most credit checks..
    They dont know what your crimes are until they do the checks...get over it...it will never change
    Even if they make it illegal to discriminate, the information is still available and will still effect their decision.

    They will just need to cover their ass. It's all to easy to simply select someone else.

    'Cuz I'll tell you what, it's illegal to discriminate against sexual orientation, but all else being equal, I won't rent to a same-sex couple who aren't and have no intention of raising a child. Like I said it's to easy to simply choose another renter.
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