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    Re: Multiculturalism

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    All people do have things in common.
    This may be news to some.
    Not enough. If people lack a common identity and common aims, they have no reason to join together to achieve common goals.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Multiculturalism

    No, no way, man. No, what's wrong with you? Multiculturalism leads to decadence. Since you have nothing in common with others, I'm talking about your identity, you don't give a **** if the country fails or succeeds. I personally don't give a **** if America fails or succeeds because it has become too multicultural and I feel my identity is not being protected in this country. I'm not being represented.

    I want a nation that has a clear defined identity. Enough of this multicultural crap!
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    Re: Multiculturalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Come look at us up North.
    Are we saying that our nation should look to Canada for guidance ?
    Or add Canada to the Germany and Japan list ??

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    Re: Multiculturalism

    To the OP question (I voted "other"):

    Multiculturalism: Yes, of course.

    *BUT* within a frame of a society that respects minority rights, religious freedom and a free, open political system. Each of the different subcultures within society must embrace this frame, else it cannot work but will fall apart.

    But as long as this frame is respected, multiculturalism should be encouraged: As long as you live and let live, it really doesn't matter how you dress, what you eat, what you believe, how you worship -- and of course it does even matter less which skin color you have, which language is your first language, or which country you or your parents are originally from.

    For technical reasons, I'd include language skills of the respective native language: It's necessary for a society to function that all subcultures can at least communicate without greater difficulties.

    Some Muslim immigrants still seem to have problems with this concept. But even moreso, there are much more, by far much more natives who have a problem with that. Xenophobes who want a homogenous society, that is ethnically, culturally or racially "pure". Those people are the enemies of freedom and the enemies of an open society. I'd give random Muslim extremists as example, or right-wingers la Wilders, or Breivik.
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    Re: Multiculturalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Not enough. If people lack a common identity and common aims, they have no reason to join together to achieve common goals.
    But people have always had things in common.
    Respect
    Honor
    a better life for their children
    a pursuit of happiness..
    BUT, the one thing that must be common for all is one national language - ENGLISH...
    The "common goals" are obvious, all one needs to do is ask.
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    Re: Multiculturalism

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    To the OP question (I voted "other"):

    Multiculturalism: Yes, of course.

    *BUT* within a frame of a society that respects minority rights, religious freedom and a free, open political system. Each of the different subcultures within society must embrace this frame, else it cannot work but will fall apart.

    But as long as this frame is respected, multiculturalism should be encouraged: As long as you live and let live, it really doesn't matter how you dress, what you eat, what you believe, how you worship -- and of course it does even matter less which skin color you have, which language is your first language, or which country you or your parents are originally from.

    For technical reasons, I'd include language skills of the respective native language: It's necessary for a society to function that all subcultures can at least communicate without greater difficulties.

    Some Muslim immigrants still seem to have problems with this concept. But even more so, there are much more, by far much more natives who have a problem with that. Xenophobes who want a homogeneous society, that is ethnically, culturally or racially "pure". Those people are the enemies of freedom and the enemies of an open society. I'd give random Muslim extremists as example, or right-wingers la Wilders, or Breivik.
    Well stated
    I agree...
    As long as the Islamists agree to "live and let live", but if not, then we do not want them..

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    Re: Multiculturalism

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Are we saying that our nation should look to Canada for guidance ?
    Or add Canada to the Germany and Japan list ??
    I was using us as a single example. There are other multicultural nations, France being one of the most.

    My point is that while some of you worry about having your identity protected, and want a clear concise culture, we up here, and in France, Germany, Norway have multicultural societies but our cultures can still be identified as Canadian, French, German and Norwegian. The Multiculturalism is what forms our countries' cultures.
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    Re: Multiculturalism

    I'm all for muti-culturalism. I don't what someone's race, religion, or (insert other cultural differences here), is. The more diverse a culture is a better. There is only one race and that is the human race.

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    Re: Multiculturalism

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    All people do have things in common.
    This may be news to some.
    There are some things that humans have in common even with other species, but trying to live in harmony with them is not feasible, i.e., we humans and the apes have much in common, such as family life, using certain tools, grooming one another, cherishing the children, even anatomical configuration, but it would be folly to attempt to integrate our social activities with them. Therefore, the fact that all humans have commonalities isn't reason enough to declare that everyone should mix and create one universal race of people simply due to those commonalities; n'est-ce pas?

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    Re: Multiculturalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Not enough. If people lack a common identity and common aims, they have no reason to join together to achieve common goals.
    That is common sense, which is sadly lacking in the heads of the collectivists.

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