View Poll Results: Who led you to believe that August 2nd is meaningless?

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Thread: Where did you get that idea

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    Re: Where did you get that idea

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    Re: Where did you get that idea

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Don't get me wrong BD, I'm actually glad he owned up to it. But you've got to wonder if he wasn't making what he called "a political vote" here. Granted its not exactly a vote here but it is similar. Election season is just around the corner after all.
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    Re: Where did you get that idea

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    So he admits that he was willing to harm the country for no reason outside of pursueing his politics but we support him anyway?

    One more time. He says that he was willing to harm the standing of the United States in the name of partisan politics.

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    Re: Where did you get that idea

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Where did you read this?
    I'm still wondering this.

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    Re: Where did you get that idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Sometimes you have to dig a hole to prevent something worse from happening. The potential for something worse in this case is large. Further, both sides agree that something needs to be done about the deficit and now is the time to do it. The disagreement is over how to do it, and neither side is working to find compromise, though Obama has offered just about everything republicans could ask for, all they have to do is have the courage to vote for it.
    Show of hands, anyone that thinks they will actually do something with the deficit. Nah...I didnt think so. They will continue this tit for tat to show the Americans how the 'real' leader is. They will haggle for months and come up a few millions saving less that what thewy currently spend. The debt will continue to grow.

    Im one of the ones that say impose tax increases AND spending cuts. If we are going to anything at all things wil have to change. When they celebrate a few pathetic cuts to the amount OVER the budget they are going to spend they hail this as a success. They dont take it seriously. They havent. They wont.

    I dont believe the republicans are anymore serious than the democrats. I think the republicans are maintaining a hard line because the Tea Party contingent demonstrated last year that they are willing to work to oust republicans that spend like crackwhores before the even worry about the democrats that do the same. Neither party has demonstrated anything resembling fiscal sense.
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    Re: Where did you get that idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There would be some I am sure, however, a majority is quite a stretch. Remember, in 2007, democrats voted 26 to 21 in the senate in favor of raising the debt ceiling, under Bush.
    And how many here would be logical...reasoned rational...and how many would just engage in the typical kneejerk response? Both sides here have that knack. I dint think a majority is beyond anyones stretvj of the imagination.

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    Re: Where did you get that idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    They have to give up on the tax increase thing, seriously. Closing loopholes is bad to them? Really, it makes no sense.
    when you do that, you raise effective rates.

    consider, for example, a low-income working family on one income with three kids. take away their EITC and Child-Tax-Credit, and you have just significantly increased the burden of government on them.

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    Re: Where did you get that idea

    It is hard to support something when you have no idea what you are being asked to support. To make the arguement that surely we can all agree to close loopholes, sounds great until you realize you have no idea what these loopholes are that we are to close.

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    Re: Where did you get that idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    August 2nd is not meaningless. It's my birthday, dangit!
    So your birthday is going to ruin the country? That's IT something has to be done about this!
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    Re: Where did you get that idea

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    You haven't been following the story, have you? Otherwise, you'd know that Obama offered so much, he scared his own party. They still said no.
    this is incorrect. Obama and Boehner had a deal and Democrats blew up over it. So Obama was forced to try to change it at the last minute to suit them, and that is what Boehner said no too. Boehner was going to give Obama $800 Bn in revenue.... and the Senate Democrats made Obama demand more.

    hence the point of my "big deal not possible" thread. the minimum amount of taxation the democrats are willing to accept is higher than the maximum the republicans are willing to accept.

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