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    Mao Tse-Tung & the Red Poison known as Communism

    I've been reading a lot of books about communism and Map Tse-Tung, recently. Apparently this communist was a very evil man who killed millions... in peacetime.

    My question is if communism spawns such violent murderers, consistently, then why is it not condemned? Any wise person understands communism has killed far more people than Naziism ever did. Furthermore, I don't subscribe to the lie that "communism never existed", that lie will not be tolerated. Because of this ideology, millions upon millions have died; but come now, communists weren't believers in communism---obviously they only thought they believed in communism.

    They say knowledge is power. Is this true? Though I'm learning about the scourge of communism and the people who clung to the belief, undoubtedly there will be naive members who will claim communism is A-OK, that their belief is more valid than an older Chinese author or two who actually lived through such horror. Undoubtedly, I know there are ex-Soviets et al who will tell you the folly of following communism; but don't believe the people who actually experienced communism, because they, of course, must be wrong.

    Communism is a poisonous ideology responsible for the death of millions.

    Mao Tse-Tung was one such communist; his wicked acts are legion. He is but one.

    Do you think communism is detrimental and Mao an evil mass-murderer?

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    Re: Mao Tse-Tung & the Red Poison known as Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I've been reading a lot of books about communism and Map Tse-Tung, recently. Apparently this communist was a very evil man who killed millions... in peacetime.

    My question is if communism spawns such violent murderers, consistently, then why is it not condemned? Any wise person understands communism has killed far more people than Naziism ever did. Furthermore, I don't subscribe to the lie that "communism never existed", that lie will not be tolerated. Because of this ideology, millions upon millions have died; but come now, communists weren't believers in communism---obviously they only thought they believed in communism.

    They say knowledge is power. Is this true? Though I'm learning about the scourge of communism and the people who clung to the belief, undoubtedly there will be naive members who will claim communism is A-OK, that their belief is more valid than an older Chinese author or two who actually lived through such horror. Undoubtedly, I know there are ex-Soviets et al who will tell you the folly of following communism; but don't believe the people who actually experienced communism, because they, of course, must be wrong.

    Communism is a poisonous ideology responsible for the death of millions.

    Mao Tse-Tung was one such communist; his wicked acts are legion. He is but one.

    Do you think communism is detrimental and Mao an evil mass-murderer?
    are you for realz??
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Mao Tse-Tung & the Red Poison known as Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I've been reading a lot of books about communism and Map Tse-Tung, recently. Apparently this communist was a very evil man who killed millions... in peacetime.

    My question is if communism spawns such violent murderers, consistently, then why is it not condemned? Any wise person understands communism has killed far more people than Naziism ever did. Furthermore, I don't subscribe to the lie that "communism never existed", that lie will not be tolerated. Because of this ideology, millions upon millions have died; but come now, communists weren't believers in communism---obviously they only thought they believed in communism.
    I think that communism is condemned, though. No one with a modicum of sense praises China or the former U.S.S.R as models of good government, do they?

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    Re: Mao Tse-Tung & the Red Poison known as Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    are you for realz??
    What do you mean? Are you saying communism hasn't "birthed" communistic tyrants? A few posters in this very forum seem to think communism is blameless and that those tyrants acted outside of communism.

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    Re: Mao Tse-Tung & the Red Poison known as Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    I think that communism is condemned, though. No one with a modicum of sense praises China or the former U.S.S.R as models of good government, do they?
    Did you know there's a communist party in America? Or that people over the internet support communism? I've actually debated with communists here, in the past.

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    Re: Mao Tse-Tung & the Red Poison known as Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    What do you mean? Are you saying communism hasn't "birthed" communistic tyrants? A few posters in this very forum seem to think communism is blameless and that those tyrants acted outside of communism.
    No, I'm amazed that you think communism hasn't been condemned.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Mao Tse-Tung & the Red Poison known as Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    No, I'm amazed that you think communism hasn't been condemned.
    True. But that doesn't stop communistic people from supporting and arguing for communism. Le Marteu was one example, there's other communistic posters, here.

    It only takes a few commies to create more commies. They don't just manifest in large numbers out of thin air. That ideology needs to be further condemned and rebuked.

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    Re: Mao Tse-Tung & the Red Poison known as Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Did you know there's a communist party in America? Or that people over the internet support communism? I've actually debated with communists here, in the past.
    Yes, I know that there is a communist party here in the U.S., and that there are people on the internet who support communism. There are plenty of folks who support some pretty wacky things, and on this board all you have to do is browse the 'Conspiracy Theory' forum to find them, but I think those folks who support that form of government are in the minority. I think most folks condemn communism. While the supporters may be here on this board, i've never read a thread where someone claimed that China's or the U.S.S.R's government is preferable to ours, and if I did I would dismiss it as easily as I did that "Loose Change" video.

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    Re: Mao Tse-Tung & the Red Poison known as Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    True. But that doesn't stop communistic people from supporting and arguing for communism. Le Marteu was one example, there's other communistic posters, here.
    What's your point? Fascism has killed people...doesn't mean fascism is an ideology with no redeeming value. As a matter of fact, we have an excellent and original-thinking fascist poster right here on this forum. Monarchies and colonial empires have killed people...does that mean nobody should be a monarchist?

    It only takes a few commies to create more commies. They don't just manifest in large numbers out of thin air. That ideology needs to be further condemned and rebuked.
    No, it takes more than that.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Mao Tse-Tung & the Red Poison known as Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    What's your point? Fascism has killed people...doesn't mean fascism is an ideology with no redeeming value. As a matter of fact, we have an excellent and original-thinking fascist poster right here on this forum. Monarchies and colonial empires have killed people...does that mean nobody should be a monarchist?



    No, it takes more than that.
    Sorry, but I don't get what your point is. I'm simply saying communism is wrong, and that people need to be aware of communists, even though they're in the minority. Not sure why you're arguing so passionately..

    Well, obviously.

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