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    Re: Was A Big Deal Ever Possible?

    Our agreeing must have killed this topic. I guess agreeing on something isn't good for business.

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    Re: Was A Big Deal Ever Possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Our agreeing must have killed this topic. I guess agreeing on something isn't good for business.
    Seldom is. Look at our political entertainers. They're doing well.

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    Re: Was A Big Deal Ever Possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Our agreeing must have killed this topic. I guess agreeing on something isn't good for business.
    I thought the topic was "Was a Big Deal Ever Possible" ? My Answer was "NO" the big deal or for that matter would any deal R or D solve the debt problem

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    Re: Was A Big Deal Ever Possible?

    it's looking like it will be exceedingly difficult to find any deal that is possible. I wonder if a big one would actually be easier than a little one since both sides could declare victory. a BBA for the revenue increases Boehner agreed to before the President reneged?

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    Re: Was A Big Deal Ever Possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    it's looking like it will be exceedingly difficult to find any deal that is possible. I wonder if a big one would actually be easier than a little one since both sides could declare victory. a BBA for the revenue increases Boehner agreed to before the President reneged?
    Boehner and the republicans never negotiated in good faith, they intended from the start to take the country into default. It's time for President Obama to use section 4 of the 14th amendment to raise the debt ceiling

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    Re: Was A Big Deal Ever Possible?

    If the Tea Party didn't exist, I think a deal could've been brokered.

    You can't make deals when someone says they'll never make a deal with you.

    Can I ask this? If Boehner knows that the Senate won't pass his bill and that Obama won't sign it, the ONLY reason for passing it for political points, right?

    So, you cannot feasibly argue that he is doing anything but trying to achieve political points. If he wanted to solve the problem, he'd craft a bill that could pass both houses and get signed. He could easily get a bill through the House if he would abandon the Republicans who abandoned him and instead ask the Democrats for something they'd be willing to vote on. But instead of being Speaker of the House, he is being Spokesmodel for the Republican Party.

    That said, I think he was forced into it by the most-appropriately-named-ever freshmen class.

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    Re: Was A Big Deal Ever Possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    If the Tea Party didn't exist, I think a deal could've been brokered.
    Which is why it's good they exist. There will be a deal but it will be different than the one we would have seen without them.

    You can't make deals when someone says they'll never make a deal with you.
    You are speaking about Obama right?

    Can I ask this? If Boehner knows that the Senate won't pass his bill and that Obama won't sign it, the ONLY reason for passing it for political points, right?
    What would be the reason for not signing it then?

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    Re: Was A Big Deal Ever Possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Which is why it's good they exist. There will be a deal but it will be different than the one we would have seen without them.



    You are speaking about Obama right?



    What would be the reason for not signing it then?
    Likely worse. The Tea Party IMHO has not been good for anything. Anger is not a movement, and they are too incoherent, contradictatory, and silly to really be positive.

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    Re: Was A Big Deal Ever Possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Boehner and the republicans never negotiated in good faith, they intended from the start to take the country into default. It's time for President Obama to use section 4 of the 14th amendment to raise the debt ceiling
    I agree, he should use his emergency powers to protect the nation's fragile recovery. Just heard on the news today that 401K's have already taken a hit on average of $4,300 because of the GOP's self-induced crisis.
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    Re: Was A Big Deal Ever Possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Boehner and the republicans never negotiated in good faith, they intended from the start to take the country into default. It's time for President Obama to use section 4 of the 14th amendment to raise the debt ceiling
    what BS. Republicans have now passed two measures to raise the debt ceiling and Boehner and Reid took the President a third plan which he rejected. The only actor in this that has refused everything and deliberately killed every deal he was offered was the President.

    Even Reid is reportedly furious with his complete detachment on this issue.

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