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  • Government funded higher education just as other industrialized nations do

    29 35.37%
  • Cut out tax loopholes for the rich to benefit the lower and middle class

    37 45.12%
  • Start disallowing outsourcing to other countries for lower wages

    31 37.80%
  • Institute a flat tax

    34 41.46%
  • Disallow those in poverty to have children

    39 47.56%
  • This is not possible; we will always have poverty and no middle class

    15 18.29%
  • There should always be poverty

    9 10.98%
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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Such bull. Conservatives would not spend a dime on public education of poor people, and education is the key for most to move out of being poor
    Exactly, and I've seen no evidence by the majority of conservatives they comprehend that paradox.
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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I'm guessing the business involves some grandkids...the reason we live in 2 states is 2 sets of grandkids....
    Nope, we don't reproduce rapidly. But, one is in the oven. Due Jan 2. Didn't think I'd be so happy about this if it happened, but I am.

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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    How would implementing a flat tax eliminate poverty?


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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    i'm trying to decide if you are deliberately being as stupid as you sound and this is your saddest, worst post ever; or if you are being ironic.
    Ironic due to the stupidity of PatrickT

    Liberals no more want to keep poor people poor then conservatives.

    Both enact policies that negatively and positively assist the poor. Some conservatives want to get rid of any social assistance and let the poor fend for themselves (like many latin american countries, which does a wonderfull job of keeping people poor, sending them to the US boarder) Some liberals want to throw money at the poor thinking that might be the solution

    But when I see such idiocy claiming liberals want the poor to remain poor it does piss me off. I can create posts that have just as much moronic bigotry as anyone, with just as much made up reasons
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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How would implementing a flat tax eliminate poverty?
    who cares, it would eliminate the power dems get by pandering to people and telling them that irresponsible government spending used to buy votes will only have to be paid by "the rich"



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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Ironic due to the stupidity of PatrickT

    Liberals no more want to keep poor people poor then conservatives.

    Both enact policies that negatively and positively assist the poor. Some conservatives want to get rid of any social assistance and let the poor fend for themselves (like many latin american countries, which does a wonderfull job of keeping people poor, sending them to the US boarder) Some liberals want to throw money at the poor thinking that might be the solution

    But when I see such idiocy claiming liberals want the poor to remain poor it does piss me off. I can create posts that have just as much moronic bigotry as anyone, with just as much made up reasons
    why do people have a duty to fund the existence of people whose lot are in no way due to the fault of those who are so taxed?



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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How would implementing a flat tax eliminate poverty?
    A flat tax would eliminate the need for the IRS which costs tax payers billions each year to fund. It would also eliminate the need for exemptions, loopholes, and other tax anomalies. It would be an easier tax code to enforce and would cost much less to enforce. And best of all, it is fair.
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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    who cares,
    Exactly it wont...
    Thanks for proving my point.

    it would eliminate the power dems get by pandering to people and telling them that irresponsible government spending used to buy votes will only have to be paid by "the rich"
    God damnit. Its the same **** on every post from the TurtleDude...


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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    A flat tax would eliminate the need for the IRS which costs tax payers billions each year to fund. It would also eliminate the need for exemptions, loopholes, and other tax anomalies. It would be an easier tax code to enforce and would cost much less to enforce. And best of all, it is fair.
    You would still need the IRS to collect taxes...


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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    1) Just because a relationship is same-sex doesn't mean it isn't "intact"

    2) Is there any evidence to actually prove your point that a man you don't love is a better partner than a woman you do?
    I didn't address same-sex relationships. You seem to have a major fixation on the subject.

    I think they are a much smaller component than either heterosexual couples or single-mothers. I've also noticed that economically, same-sex couples make out like gangbusters by both working and not having children. Before you get your knickers in a twist I know some do have children. Most don't.

    And, this is way off topic.

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