View Poll Results: How To Eliminate Poverty, Re-establish the Middle-Class? Check all you agree with

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  • Government funded higher education just as other industrialized nations do

    29 35.37%
  • Cut out tax loopholes for the rich to benefit the lower and middle class

    37 45.12%
  • Start disallowing outsourcing to other countries for lower wages

    31 37.80%
  • Institute a flat tax

    34 41.46%
  • Disallow those in poverty to have children

    39 47.56%
  • This is not possible; we will always have poverty and no middle class

    15 18.29%
  • There should always be poverty

    9 10.98%
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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    I couldn't agree with you more. In my state the poor are actually encouraged to stay on welfare and not rewarded for coming off of it (opposite of what it should be) due to abrupt welfare cut-off's based on income level. This makes it so that they have medical insurance, food stamps etc. one year and if they make a few extra bucks the next, they loose their benefits, thus making it so they can't pay bills such as medical bills. Whoever thought up that system was either trying to keep the poor on the system or completely lacking intelligence. jmo
    A living wage for full-time work would seem to me to be a much better option to welfare. But that's just me............
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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Not exactly .. in fact .. far from it
    Well, there you go again. Equal opportunity exists. Equal results does not. Thank goodness!! Anyone with a sound mind and body can make it in America. It takes utilizing virtues and not vices. It takes hard work, getting educated (not necessarily a degree), self-discipline, personal responsibility, tenacity, frugality, and the rest. That does not mean everyone becomes "wealthy." Making it should be simply being self-sufficient.

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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A living wage for full-time work would seem to me to be a much better option to welfare. But that's just me............
    I agree! I think people having employment for an income that they have agreed to work for is far better than welfare. Wow! Catawba and I have one agreement now. Is there a second?

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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I agree! I think people having employment for an income that they have agreed to work for is far better than welfare. Wow! Catawba and I have one agreement now. Is there a second?
    Glad you agree on a minimum living wage for full-time work! Because if you can't live on it, you are back on welfare.
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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Glad you agree on a minimum living wage for full-time work! Because if you can't live on it, you are back on welfare.
    Absolutely!! I think a true minimum living wage should be $150 an hour, please benefits, of course.

    Hey Catawba, did you hear what our wonderful President accomplished with his new buddies, the automobile manufacturers, yesterday? I am going to have to nurse my big car for quite some time, because I don't want to drive the matchbox car that will be available in 2025.

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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Absolutely!! I think a true minimum living wage should be $150 an hour, please benefits, of course.
    So this is what the rich believe is a living wage eh? Pitiful, just pitiful!
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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Absolutely!! I think a true minimum living wage should be $150 an hour, please benefits, of course.

    Hey Catawba, did you hear what our wonderful President accomplished with his new buddies, the automobile manufacturers, yesterday? I am going to have to nurse my big car for quite some time, because I don't want to drive the matchbox car that will be available in 2025.

    Thnxs alot now my 'puter is dripping crap.

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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Well, there you go again. Equal opportunity exists. Equal results does not. Thank goodness!! Anyone with a sound mind and body can make it in America. It takes utilizing virtues and not vices. It takes hard work, getting educated (not necessarily a degree), self-discipline, personal responsibility, tenacity, frugality, and the rest. That does not mean everyone becomes "wealthy." Making it should be simply being self-sufficient.
    Equal opportunity doesn't exist anywhere because it is contingent upon people having the same opportunity to succeed. And they don't. Especially not here. In fact, moving up the economic latter is easier in certain European countries.

    Who has a better chance at success: the son of a lawyer or the son of a under employed construction worker?
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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Equal opportunity doesn't exist anywhere because it is contingent upon people having the same opportunity to succeed. And they don't. Especially not here. In fact, moving up the economic latter is easier in certain European countries.

    Who has a better chance at success: the son of a lawyer or the son of a under employed construction worker?
    Both have equal opportunity to succeed. Your example would mean that you believe in equal results first so that your version of equal opportunity would exist. This is not how anyone ever believed equal opportunity existed. This is only the liberal, progressive distorted view of things.

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    Re: Elimination of Poverty, the Re-establishment of the Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Thnxs alot now my 'puter is dripping crap.
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