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    Re: Does the average citizen harbor envy/jealousy, hatred for the extremely wealthy?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Many people have their priorities wrong. That is the problem in this country.
    Right, as long as you have a trash bag to rest your head on and a bridge somewhere to sleep under, who could ask for anything more!
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    Re: Does the average citizen harbor envy/jealousy, hatred for the extremely wealthy?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Many people have their priorities wrong. That is the problem in this country.
    I'm not sure what you mean by this.

    Also, having limited liability doesn't depend on corporate personhood.
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    Re: Does the average citizen harbor envy/jealousy, hatred for the extremely wealthy?

    LOL that is funny but since your premise is wrong its a house built on a foundation of quicksand

    (replying to GI's long winded spew)



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    Re: Does the average citizen harbor envy/jealousy, hatred for the extremely wealthy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Right, as long as you have a trash bag to rest your head on and a bridge somewhere to sleep under, who could ask for anything more!
    No doubt you've taken one of these into your own home, right?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Does the average citizen harbor envy/jealousy, hatred for the extremely wealthy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Right, as long as you have a trash bag to rest your head on and a bridge somewhere to sleep under, who could ask for anything more!
    Is that how you envision the "poor repressed middle class" as living? Even a majority of people living in poverty don't live like this.
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    Re: Does the average citizen harbor envy/jealousy, hatred for the extremely wealthy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    real libertarians believe in personal responsibility.
    Indeed, this is all about personal responsibility. You're the one who is advocating that the government alleviate shareholders of their personal responsibility, at the expense of the victims of their torts.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If you are president of a company and you order someone to harm another you will be both civilly and criminally liable. if someone does that without your knowledge why should your PERSONAL property be subject to suit
    You are misdirecting the issue. It is about legal obligations. The members of a corporation can, thanks to a government-backed tort-liability shield, escape liability in circumstances where the members of a family, the members of a partnership, and even the members of a church picnic could not. Same circumstances, only difference is a corporation has a protection racket agreement with the government, while the latter three groups do not.

    This is not about tort reform. All I am saying is that all groups of businesspeople should be held to the same standard of liability, be they an unincorporated partnership or a corporation. That's the libertarian way, the enshrinement of personal responsibility.

    It's parasites like you TD, who want to escape honestly owed debts, that are the problem.
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    Re: Does the average citizen harbor envy/jealousy, hatred for the extremely wealthy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    LOL that is funny but since your premise is wrong its a house built on a foundation of quicksand

    (replying to GI's long winded spew)
    The only thing long in that post was a Federal Appeals Court opinion that directly debunked you.
    Last edited by Guy Incognito; 07-20-11 at 10:34 PM.

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    Re: Does the average citizen harbor envy/jealousy, hatred for the extremely wealthy?

    a citizen buys 1000 dollars worth of acme inc's stock

    someone driving a truck for acme inc swerves to miss a thrown tire or a dodging deer and kills a person in an oncoming car. the estate sues acme inc and say the verdict is a million dollar above acme's insurance

    under current laws, the judgment has to be satisfied only with the assets of acme and that means the stockholder's investments could be toast.

    guy thinks that the estate should be able to sue the citizen personally and collect against his property in addition to the limit of his investments. that is idiotic in my opinion since there is no negligence or blame or intent on the part of the stockholder



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    Re: Does the average citizen harbor envy/jealousy, hatred for the extremely wealthy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    The only thing long in that post was a Federal Appeals Court opinion that directly debunked you.
    No it didn't

    sovereign immunity is a method by those who run a corporate entity and municipal and state governments are corporations. using your "logic" the mayor of LA should be personally liable for the cops beating up Rodney King



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    Re: Does the average citizen harbor envy/jealousy, hatred for the extremely wealthy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    The government disagrees with you.



    Closing loopholes and having them pay a bit more? All for it.

    But let's not get carried away.
    To be fair, you'd probably see those lines intersect at some point if the data had been up-to-date. But I agree that you can only conclude so much from the "top 400 families."
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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