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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    I happen to have been around to have heard the exact same scare tactics used when Clinton proposed an increase in the taxes on the wealthy a few percentage points:



    Yet the revenues, jobs and the economy grew the closest to a balanced budget we have had in 3 decades of trickle down economics.

    So pardon me if I don't buy the hype!
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    If you aren't willing to pay the same rate on your next dollar as you want the rich to pay you really have no credible position demanding OTHERS pay more taxes



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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If you aren't willing to pay the same rate on your next dollar as you want the rich to pay you really have no credible position demanding OTHERS pay more taxes
    The working class already pay a higher percentage of their total income in taxes than the rich do. That is why we are demanding it!

    Why do you feel the rich should not have to sacrifice as the working class is being asked to by the GOP?
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The working class already pay a higher percentage of their total income in taxes than the rich do. That is why we are demanding it!
    another complete lie. you cannot make that claim for each state because some states have massive death and income taxes

    federally that is a complete lie. the richest 5% have the highest effective rate of federal taxes by far and the bottom quintile often are getting the money they pay state taxes with FROM FEDERAL HANDOUTS



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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    another complete lie. you cannot make that claim for each state because some states have massive death and income taxes

    federally that is a complete lie. the richest 5% have the highest effective rate of federal taxes by far and the bottom quintile often are getting the money they pay state taxes with FROM FEDERAL HANDOUTS
    Either prove it is a lie or shut the hell up.. The fact is he is right.. The rich actually do pay the least percentage wise in taxes..

    So put up or shut up!! Conservatives like you vilifying the poor is simply pathetic!! I am sick of it!! You have no clue what your talking about..

    General Electric Paid No Federal Taxes in 2010 - ABC News

    Explain that if you can.. I thought the rich paid taxes??

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    another complete lie. you cannot make that claim for each state because some states have massive death and income taxes

    federally that is a complete lie. the richest 5% have the highest effective rate of federal taxes by far and the bottom quintile often are getting the money they pay state taxes with FROM FEDERAL HANDOUTS
    I had a typo, I meant to say the working class pays more total taxes than the rich.
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    Either prove it is a lie or shut the hell up.. The fact is he is right.. The rich actually do pay the least percentage wise in taxes..

    So put up or shut up!! Conservatives like you vilifying the poor is simply pathetic!! I am sick of it!! You have no clue what your talking about..

    General Electric Paid No Federal Taxes in 2010 - ABC News

    Explain that if you can.. I thought the rich paid taxes??
    why do you cite GE when we are talking about the top 2%

    You dont even understand that we are talking about People



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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I had a typo, I meant to say the working class pays more total taxes than the rich.
    uh and that is a lie. the top 5% pay more federal taxes in actual dollars than the rest of the country



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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If you aren't willing to pay the same rate on your next dollar as you want the rich to pay you really have no credible position demanding OTHERS pay more taxes
    Turtle.. Actually it is you that simply has no credible position period..

    If the top% account for almost have of the nations wealth and incomem.. Then why is it wrong to expect the top 1% to pay the most in taxes?? If the bottom 45% of the nation accounts for less than 1% of the wealth and income.. .02% to be exact.. Why on earth should they pay more taxes than the rich?? The rich better pay more, they make more.. It is simple math..

    So let me ask you this?? Are you rich?? Or do you just like bending over and spreading them for the government and the rich??

    So?? Please explain why the poor or middle class should pay more taxes than the rich??

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do you cite GE when we are talking about the top 2%

    You dont even understand that we are talking about People
    You think there is a difference between a rich person and a rich company?? Now wonder you have no clue what your talking about..

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