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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Cliaming eveyone who disagrees with your position is envious is a form of classwarfare btw.
    lolz .. that was funny. And true.

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    What exactly do the wealthy and powerful need to be saved from? If their incomes were taxed 100%, they'd still have enough possessions to live like kings for the rest of their lives. Or, alternately, if they forfeited all their possessions, they'd still have inordinate income. Oh no! Maybe the wealthiest among us will have to live as if they were middle class... what a terrible curse! And all they'll have to comfort themselves with while they live our crappy lives will be the knowledge that their sacrifice meant that no more children will starve, be homeless, go without an education, or die from curable illnesses or treatable injuries... Damn, that would suck.
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Nope, nobody needs saving. This ridiculous envy is absurd. If you don't like your lot in life, work harder to improve it. Stop acting like someone else has to pay your way.
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Yes. I agree. They just stole a lot of stuff from AT&T's government funded research contract for computing, and went on from there. They're just pirates who mostly buy or steal developments from other people. Gates didn't even have an OS when he sold one to IBM.

    So, how does Gates being worth $40 billion from a monopoly help the economy, exactly?
    His company, which is why he is rich, benefits the economy. I'm pretty sure that's obvious (and was also mentioned in my post).
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Nope, nobody needs saving. This ridiculous envy is absurd. If you don't like your lot in life, work harder to improve it. Stop acting like someone else has to pay your way.

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    What qualifies as rich? And what does it mean to save someone?
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    I think it's deplorable that those who couldn't expect those who could to pay for thier xbox's big screen tvs and thier designer clothes.
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's the definition of envy. Wanting what someone else has. Just because someone has more than you doesn't entitle you to take it from them. Earn it yourself.
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's the definition of envy. Wanting what someone else has. Just because someone has more than you doesn't entitle you to take it from them. Earn it yourself.
    Envy: A feeling of discontented or resentful longing aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck
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    You see the feelings of unfairness are not aroused (aroused is the key word here, i.e. caused) by someone else's possession, qualities or luck ... rather they are aroused by suffering and by a system that allows unfairness

    So as you can see, those who seek to reduce suffering are not truly envious of those who amass more wealth than they know what to do with, instead, they just want peoples lives to be filled with less suffering and in order to do this, the system needs to be fair. It has nothing to do with envy.

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    You see the feelings of unfairness are not aroused (aroused is the key word here, i.e. caused) by someone else's possession, qualities or luck ... rather they are aroused by suffering and by a system that allows unfairness

    So as you can see, those who seek to reduce suffering are not truly envious of those who amass more wealth than they know what to do with, instead, they just want peoples lives to be filled with less suffering and in order to do this, the system needs to be fair. It has nothing to do with envy.
    There's no suffering allowed by the system, everyone plays by the same rules. Don't like being poor? Get an education, get a job, be good at it, get promoted, get paid lots of money. It's not my fault many people are too stupid, ignorant or foolish to follow the procedure. That's not the fault of the system, it's the fault of the people who shoot themselves in the foot, then look at someone else who didn't and scream "GIMME!"
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