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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    artificial means to create equality are far worse than any problems that come from inequality

    Marie Antoinette had the same view.

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Marie Antoinette had the same view.
    feel free to try to storm my Bastille any time you want.

    but you are accurate on one thing

    your phony calls for egalitarianism will end up another bloody dictatorship though I have a feeling you won't be on the winning side



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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    artificial means to create equality are far worse than any problems that come from inequality
    Let me ask you .. do you think I do not believe in competition? Do you believe I do not believe in the principles of rewarding positive actions/behaviors? Do you really think that I believe everyone should have the exact same amount of wealth? If you do, you are quite mistaken.

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    feel free to try to storm my Bastille any time you want.

    but you are accurate on one thing

    your phony calls for egalitarianism will end up another bloody dictatorship though I have a feeling you won't be on the winning side

    The authors point out that the life-diminishing results of valuing growth above equality in rich societies can be seen all around us. Inequality causes shorter, unhealthier and unhappier lives; it increases the rate of teenage pregnancy, violence, obesity, imprisonment and addiction; it destroys relationships between individuals born in the same society but into different classes; and its function as a driver of consumption depletes the planet's resources.
    Wilkinson, a public health researcher of 30 years' standing, has written numerous books and articles on the physical and mental effects of social differentiation. He and Pickett have compiled information from around 200 different sets of data, using reputable sources such as the United Nations, the World Bank, the World Health Organisation and the US Census, to form a bank of evidence against inequality that is impossible to deny.
    They use the information to create a series of scatter-graphs whose patterns look nearly identical, yet which document the prevalence of a vast range of social ills. On almost every index of quality of life, or wellness, or deprivation, there is a gradient showing a strong correlation between a country's level of economic inequality and its social outcomes. Almost always, Japan and the Scandinavian countries are at the favourable "low" end, and almost always, the UK, the US and Portugal are at the unfavourable "high" end, with Canada, Australasia and continental European countries in between.
    This has nothing to do with total wealth or even the average per-capita income. America is one of the world's richest nations, with among the highest figures for income per person, but has the lowest longevity of the developed nations, and a level of violence - murder, in particular - that is off the scale. Of all crimes, those involving violence are most closely related to high levels of inequality - within a country, within states and even within cities. For some, mainly young, men with no economic or educational route to achieving the high status and earnings required for full citizenship, the experience of daily life at the bottom of a steep social hierarchy is enraging.


    Review: The Spirit Level by Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett | Books | The Guardian

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    most violence in America comes from the war on drugs not social stratification



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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    most violence in America comes from the war on drugs not social stratification

    Jeeesh I wonder why people would be getting ****ed up?

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Nah I am completely right
    If you say so...
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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Marie Antoinette had the same view.
    I sort of doubt you could prove that.



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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Jeeesh I wonder why people would be getting ****ed up?
    like many on the left they have a trouble dealing with reality and accepting responsibility for changing their lot in life



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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    like many on the left they have a trouble dealing with reality and accepting responsibility for changing their lot in life
    You mean like blaming the media, or unions, or anyone other than yourself? Yo pot . . . .




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