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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    I agree with most of what you said, not too familiar with some of the other points though. One thing that I do not want to bash (even if the majority of the ones who support it, do so for luxury reasons), is the legalization of growing hemp in the U.S. - this would be a great boost to the economy - btw, hemp is not taken from a marijuana plant, they are closely related plants, but not the same thing.

    Even marijuana, like alcohol, could be a great cash crop (enhancing the economy), it would reduce money spent on fighting the loosing battle against it and free up time for the law to focus on other more important issues, and it would free up a lot of jail cells thus putting less burden on the economy and the list goes on. Hemp and its cousin Marijuana, could bring us out of this recession - with likely little effect as the percent of people using marijuana is sky high already. jmo ... but it is many other's as well
    I know all that, I'm a sometime toker myself, it's just further down my list of urgent political and economic priorities, way down. I also have some doubts about how great it would be as a cash crop, and how much hemp clothing is really needed to stock trendy stores like Banana Republic; I can't afford the place, myself, but I'm not opposed to pot. I agree it was stupid to ban it, and know why it was banned. It's just not a burning issue for me.

    I wouldn't die if alcohol was banned, either, though, in fact I would vote for Prohibition if the issue came up again, I've seen the damage and ruin it does, so I'm a mixed bag on drug issues. I'm not a Libertarian; it depends on the drugs and their effects on people and society in general, and alcohol has never been a positive for either.
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Now? No. 2007~2008? Absolutely.
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I know all that, I'm a sometime toker myself, it's just further down my list of urgent political and economic priorities, way down. I also have some doubts about how great it would be as a cash crop, and how much hemp clothing is really needed to stock trendy stores like Banana Republic; I can't afford the place, myself, but I'm not opposed to pot. I agree it was stupid to ban it, and know why it was banned. It's just not a burning issue for me.

    I wouldn't die if alcohol was banned, either, though, in fact I would vote for Prohibition if the issue came up again, I've seen the damage and ruin it does, so I'm a mixed bag on drug issues. I'm not a Libertarian; it depends on the drugs and their effects on people and society in general, and alcohol has never been a positive for either.
    If you are truly worried about the economy, you cannot afford to flip your nose up at things that will provide mass amounts of revenue. Also, I suggest you read up on the plant that provides hemp - its uses are very versatile - additionally, many farmers want to grow it instead of say wheat for example as it provides more product and requires much less work to grow.

    If people had half a brain they would be perusing all ways to increase the economy while in a recession .. its unreasonable not too .. it should be our focus, most progress requires a good economy, so it should be set at top priority

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I would laugh but this is sad truth. Damn.


    Yeah, I know. Me and reality are inseparable. Sometimes it sucks to be me. I wish I could dream up my own political reality like some of our other friends here do. How cool would that be?

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What does progressive tax system have to do with anything in this poll? Does a progressive tax system supposed to save the rich? No....


    Oh great here we go... If someones taxes are higher than the others the right found a new word for it its called "class war" now apparently... Just like with the rich the right now uses the word "job creators" now... Sooo lame...
    Why is it lame?

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    If by "saving" you mean "having all their **** seized by the proletariat," then yes, they do. That probably wasn't what you meant, though...
    What is proleteriat and why do they need ****?

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    No. They are utterly useless as a factor in the economy, yet they suck off almost the entire productivity gains of the last 30 years, and don't re-invest it in the economy. This was glaringly obvious in the last Depression, and ditto this one.

    I'll also add that there are many wealthy people who aren't opposed to getting their taxes raised anyway, as that would have zero effect on their lifestyles and future.

    Of course, you wouldn't know that if you only listen to all the teeth gnashing, whining, and hair pulling in the fever swamps of the internet, mostly from morons who will never be wealthy anyway, they're just stupid and really think they have a shot at it because they see a lot of infomercials late at night when they've had a few beers, telling them all about getting vast wealth from real estate with no money down, and many other ludicrous ways to gamble away their life savings, usually for around $39.95.

    Oh, and that's plus shipping. And a 30 day, money back guarantee.

    No stats on how many people get rich in 30 days on these plans, though, so somehow I doubt they give out many refunds. Fabulous 'cash flows' are routinely advertised, and never less than five figures a week.

    As for me, I just go to Reno or Vegas once a year. It's more fun, and the returns are usually higher than the average returns the 'professionals' are getting every year.
    Wouldnt you want to be rich? How musc tax does the rich pay?

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    No thread is ever complete without a bit of delusion and hackery.
    Per Ockham, "Perhaps those who have less should get some guts and ambition to get rich."

    Y'know what? Some of us JUST want to be comfortable. That's it. And the more the rich hoover up the wealth, the less remains for us to be 'comfortable.'

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Per Ockham, "Perhaps those who have less should get some guts and ambition to get rich."

    Y'know what? Some of us JUST want to be comfortable. That's it. And the more the rich hoover up the wealth, the less remains for us to be 'comfortable.'
    But miss boop, just because you are satisfied to be midle class, why cant other people want to be rich?

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Many read those type of responses as hate, as often they are beyond hyperbolic.
    What does hyperbolic mean boo?

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