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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Who creates the jobs, if they don't?
    Need creates jobs. Where there is a need, someone will meet that need. The wealthy do not need to be worshiped or cowtowed to.They are citizens like everyone else.Citizens who benefit mostfrom our government. Having them pay more is simply fair.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Who creates the jobs, if they don't?
    two things here
    1) this whole "job creators" nonsense is a scam giving Republicans a new word of the week which they can use to replace RICH and WEALTHY which do not play well. Just like during the Gingrich era, GOP thought molders came up with the neologism of DEATH TAX instead of the actual term ESTATE TAX because they thought it would play better politically with the non rich.

    2) Some wealthy are indeed job creators. Some are not job creators. To call an entire class of RICH people JOB CREATORS is a blatant lie and obvious political manipulation based on dishonesty.
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Yes. I agree. They just stole a lot of stuff from AT&T's government funded research contract for computing, and went on from there. They're just pirates who mostly buy or steal developments from other people. Gates didn't even have an OS when he sold one to IBM.

    So, how does Gates being worth $40 billion from a monopoly help the economy, exactly?
    Conspiracy theory.
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    two things here
    1) this whole "job creators" nonsense is a scam giving Republicans a new word of the week which they can use to replace RICH and WEALTHY which do not play well. Just like during the Gingrich era, GOP thought molders came up with the neologism of DEATH TAX instead of the actual term ESTATE TAX because they thought it would play better politically with the non rich.

    2) Some wealthy are indeed job creators. Some are not job creators. To call an entire class of RICH people JOB CREATORS is a blatant lie and obvious political manipulation based on dishonesty.
    It's a rhetorical technique used to anchor an idea. Not original,but often effective.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    two things here
    1) this whole "job creators" nonsense is a scam giving Republicans a new word of the week which they can use to replace RICH and WEALTHY which do not play well. Just like during the Gingrich era, GOP thought molders came up with the neologism of DEATH TAX instead of the actual term ESTATE TAX because they thought it would play better politically with the non rich.

    2) Some wealthy are indeed job creators. Some are not job creators. To call an entire class of RICH people JOB CREATORS is a blatant lie and obvious political manipulation based on dishonesty.
    Yeah, it fails miserably to address all those rich Hollywood actors who are guilty about their wealth and therefore want to be taxed into poverty.

    And the fact that the "job creatoriest" of all make a huge part of their wealth gambling on currency and speculating on various commodities and any number of other things that have little or nothing to do with job creation.
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    two things here
    1) this whole "job creators" nonsense is a scam giving Republicans a new word of the week which they can use to replace RICH and WEALTHY which do not play well. Just like during the Gingrich era, GOP thought molders came up with the neologism of DEATH TAX instead of the actual term ESTATE TAX because they thought it would play better politically with the non rich.

    2) Some wealthy are indeed job creators. Some are not job creators. To call an entire class of RICH people JOB CREATORS is a blatant lie and obvious political manipulation based on dishonesty.

    They are paying some of the least taxs ever and wheres the jobs...oops 9.5 unemployment...and where are the jobs that they have created, well in china of course.

    Taxs and job creation are not entertwined thats a talking point excuse

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    They are paying some of the least taxs ever and wheres the jobs...oops 9.5 unemployment...and where are the jobs that they have created, well in china of course.

    Taxs and job creation are not entertwined thats a talking point excuse
    You mean the 90.5% of the workforce that is working?
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You mean the 90.5% of the workforce that is working?
    Does saying "welcome to wal mart" for nine bucks an hour for twenty hours a week qualify as "working" when you formerly had a good job working full time making 50K per year plus benefits?
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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You mean the 90.5% of the workforce that is working?

    Deduct public workers that the teaparty HATES so deeply and underemployed part timers and there isnt 50% of the private sector working...but the chinese are doing just fine...so well matter of fact our good corporate rich guys took them from eating dog and cat to being a superpower that will threaten our existence in the future and owns a trillion of OUR debt...how frickin cool is that

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    Re: Do The Rich Need Saving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Many folks around here seem so very concerned about the rich folks, their money and the taxes they have to pay.

    So I ask the folks here do we really need to be worried about rich folks having to pay too much tax? Are you gonna sleep less at night worrying about tax burdens of the rich?

    For the rich folks here at DP? Sorry if I offend you.
    The rich should be treated like every other person in this country. They should be left alone to do what they want to do. They should NOT be targeted with some ambiguous "pay their fair share" nonsense. If there are too many tax loopholes, close the loopholes. What pisses me off is the entitled feeling some people have that the rich OWE someone else because they have more and others have less. Perhaps those who have less should get some guts and ambition to get rich.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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