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Thread: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    define properly. congress gets its power by doling the money out and appealing to class envy rather then actually stealing the money
    Again with the envy thing? Seriously?

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    It sounds like your arguments are just as filled with as many "complaints" as other posters contain .. not that that is a bad thing as people have the right to stand up for what they believe in.
    people have the right to stand up for what they believe in

    what they don't have the proper right to do is to impose costs on others



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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    people have the right to stand up for what they believe in
    ah, we agree then

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what they don't have the proper right to do is to impose costs on others
    And you are entitled to that opinion

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    ah, we agree then



    And you are entitled to that opinion
    so you think the fact that you exist entitles you to someone else's wealth?



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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    That doesn't work unless I have the pic on the internet and I don't. I found the photo album for DP, but it took forever to upload and I finally cancelled it. I may try again later. Arrgh. Thanks.
    Maybe the file is too large.
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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you think the fact that you exist entitles you to someone else's wealth?
    We are all born on earth as free men and women. We all have equal rights to land and resources. Yet everywhere one looks, we see oppression and unequal opportunity. Do you propose that all men/women are not born free? Do you propose that men/women have the right to disallow others access to the earth and is resources which is owned by everyone?

    You advertise "Man is born free", yet your posts show how much you support taking away people's freedom by disallowing people their birth given access to land and resources.

    Wealth as it exists today is only able to be accumulated because it is light and will not spoil when hoarded. Before currency there was the trade system, which disallowed the extreme hoarding that is capable now. In the past, people would not grow an orchard of apples and then lock the apples up as they would spoil. Therefore, people never accumulated more than they could use or trade for other goods. I say this to unveil the artificiality of the wealth people are able to amass in modern society and to unveil who is really stealing and hoarding the earth's wealth.
    Last edited by MusicAdventurer; 07-24-11 at 11:20 PM.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    We are all born on earth as free men and women. We all have equal rights to land and resources. Yet everywhere one looks, we see oppression and unequal opportunity. Do you propose that all men/women are not born free? Do you propose that men/women have the right to disallow others access to the earth and is resources which is owned by everyone?

    You advertise "Man is born free", yet your posts show how much you support taking away people's freedom by disallowing people their birth given access to land and resources.

    Wealth as it exists today is only able to be accumulated because it is light and will not spoil when hoarded. Before currency there was the trade system, which disallowed the extreme hoarding that is capable now. In the past, people would not grow an orchard of apples and then lock the apples up as they would spoil. Therefore, people never accumulated more than they could use or trade for other goods. I say this to unveil the artificiality of the wealth people are able to amass in modern society and to unveil who is really stealing and hoarding the earth's wealth.
    Are these the views of a centrist?

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    We are all born on earth as free men and women. We all have equal rights to land and resources. Yet everywhere one looks, we see oppression and unequal opportunity. Do you propose that all men/women are not born free? Do you propose that men/women have the right to disallow others access to the earth and is resources which is owned by everyone?

    You advertise "Man is born free", yet your posts show how much you support taking away people's freedom by disallowing people their birth given access to land and resources.

    Wealth as it exists today is only able to be accumulated because it is light and will not spoil when hoarded. Before currency there was the trade system, which disallowed the extreme hoarding that is capable now. In the past, people would not grow an orchard of apples and then lock the apples up as they would spoil. Therefore, people never accumulated more than they could use or trade for other goods. I say this to unveil the artificiality of the wealth people are able to amass in modern society and to unveil who is really stealing and hoarding the earth's wealth.
    that is sort of a long winded way of saying personal failure



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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Are these the views of a centrist?
    depends where you are. In America probably not, in North Korea probably so



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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Are these the views of a centrist?
    According to political compass type websites .. yes they are .. is there anything in particular that strikes you as not being so? You do realize that a persons political stance is not one dimensional right, i.e. there are more issues than taxes, fair wages etc.? By the way, I answered your questions in that other thread (or was it in this one .. can't remember).

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