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Thread: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hmmm I can upload an image from my computer.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Fair means a wage that will avoid undue hardship on the worker .. not whatever wage is agreed upon so that a family can suffer in debt, malnutrition, unrewarding work etc.
    WOW, that is just funny. So it is the employeers responsibility to provide everything the families of his workers need, regardless of what kind of job it is.

    Like I said, funny.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    So, when I was laid off from a company and I then went to work for another company for 1/3 less, I was not receiving a "fair" wage? Our family's lifestyle was built around the higher income. Did we suffer? Yes. Malnutrition? No. Unrewarding work? Yes and no. Did I piss and moan? No. Did I rebound? Yes. Must be genetics. I think I should get a lot of credit for what I have accomplished. I have more on this to provide, but I have to leave to meet my daughter at a car dealer. I'll be back.
    It sounds like MusicAdventurers opinion is that second employeer should have gotten your financials and paid you what you needed to pay all your bills, and whatever else you needed.

    That is not the real world.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Wow! What happened to our friendly discussion? Where in the world did I say that I don't care about suffering. Sheesh! All I said is that I give to relieve suffering in Africa, but my main focus is on the U.S. I cannot take care of the world nor can the United States. I know you have seen our deficit and our debt and surely you agree with me on this. I have taken many political tests or quizes and I always find that I am a conservative.
    If there was no suffering in the world there would be less successful people.

    Most of the rags to riches stories you hear are about people that suffered through one thing or another giving them the fire to change their life.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I'm sure that some think it is impossible. There are many stories of rags to riches. Also, I find it interesting how many legal immigrants do so well here.
    I was of course being sarcastic.

    Nobody ever gave me anything and people like MusicAdventure just get to me.

    I would bet a lot of money he has never been an employeer.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    WOW, that is just funny. So it is the employeers responsibility to provide everything the families of his workers need, regardless of what kind of job it is.

    Like I said, funny.

    this board is full of posters who think the purpose of a company is first to provide jobs to people and then tax dollars to government. And these same people then whine that the corporations saddled with that sort of nonsense leave



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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Another generalization. I think most people here realize that corporations exist to profit. That's fairly obvious.
    “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” -Napoleon

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Another generalization. I think most people here realize that corporations exist to profit. That's fairly obvious.
    Not totally correct. Many businesses are established to produce a great product or service. Someone, like Fred Smith, had a great idea, initiated it, and it worked. At the time, it was totally unique and the competition of that day is practically non-existent today. Profit now needs to be maintained just to keep innovating, but profit was not necessarily the motive. A grand idea was. There are other examples. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates would be two others. So was Mr. Carrier. The list is quite lengthy.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Not totally correct. Many businesses are established to produce a great product or service. Someone, like Fred Smith, had a great idea, initiated it, and it worked. At the time, it was totally unique and the competition of that day is practically non-existent today. Profit now needs to be maintained just to keep innovating, but profit was not necessarily the motive. A grand idea was. There are other examples. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates would be two others. So was Mr. Carrier. The list is quite lengthy.
    Well, OK... but the "great idea" was realized and then produced in order to turn a profit.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Well, OK... but the "great idea" was realized and then produced in order to turn a profit.
    The profit is a necessity. It is often not the motivator either to start or to continue. We may be saying the same thing, but I believe strongly in the motivation part of it. Great products most often do not come from the concept of being motivated by profit. It comes from being motivated to offer make something new or better. It continues to be great because of the motivation to maintain a great product or service.
    Last edited by LesGovt; 07-22-11 at 05:27 PM.

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