View Poll Results: Should a multi-billionaire settle for 2 jets instead of 3, 7 homes instead of 10 etc?

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Thread: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    I agree .. however, if progressive taxes without loopholes means that some ridiculously wealthy have to settle for one or two less homes or own a smaller private jet .. I won't complain
    You won't complain. How nice. So you are 100% for redistribution of wealth.
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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What's a tax "right" off?
    That's for all that opulence you gotz...cigars, beer, jet planes, condoms....stuff like that.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Those as well as the Rothchild, Vanderbilt, Windsor, Du Pont, Rockefeller, Astor, etc. There are others.

    Here's a lovely quote from Prince Phillip:

    "If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." — Prince Phillip



    Bill Gates is also a major proponent of reducing the population.
    Dude, the topic is about taxes...not depopulation.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How is buying 20 homes and 7 jets, hoarding resources?
    Many have yet to learn the lesson of the pencil. All one needs to do here is exchange pencil for jet or pencil for home.


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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You won't complain. How nice. So you are 100% for redistribution of wealth.
    I am, so long as it's all redistributed to me.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Oh, please forgive me everyone. This is going to stray far afield.

    You know we are going to disagree, but maybe we can disagree agreeably. First, I don't understand whose business it is if a wealthy person hoarded their money. My guess is very few do. Many billionaires made it by building a large corporation from nothing, i.e. Gates, Jobs, etc. Their capital is highly still at work in the corporations and not sitting in a bank as someone here has intimated. Also, when they sell the corporations, they often invest that money in other instruments, i.e. stocks, bonds, etc. When they do this, the money helps other corporations and that is good for the economy. So, I think it is over-generalizing here to say what funds are available to the billionaires.

    I'm not sure how you could possibly know how the wealthy have impacted my life, but I'll let yo explain it to me.

    There are poor due to mental or physical handicaps. If they really cannot help themselves, then they should receive assistance. I believe that assistance should be as follows: Family, private or religious charities, local government, county government, and lastly state government. The closer the aid is the more knowledgeable the people offering the aid are of the recipient's real needs.

    There are poor who have made poor decisions or who have lived lives of vices instead of virtues. These people need assistance, but not permanent assistance. They need help to learn how to become self-sufficient. The assistance they get should come from: Family, private or religious charities, local government, county government, and lastly state government. The difference with these people and those with real prohibiting handicaps is that the aid here should come with agreements and actions from the recipients to change their ways. No agreement. No aid. No positive steps toward goals, no aid. This is about responsibility.

    I could tell you about my background, but it is a personal experience and I cannot prove what I could tell you. Let me just say that I was not raised in even middle-class luxury. The good news is that through hard work and being driven to succeed, as I have said elsewhere, I have lived the American Dream. If I can make it, others can and should. We need to aim people in the right direction and you do not do that by tossing money from Washington to them. A Senator from California doesn't know what the problem is with a poor person in the Ozarks. Again, we would be much better helping people close to home.
    You must be lying about getting out of poverty because a lot of people on this board say it is just simply not possible.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    O.K. so some may not sit on their money .. but some is not all
    Additionally, I don't see how lining other corporate richies is helping the less fortunate .. indeed if all the wealth is passed back and forth between wealthy buddies, when exactly will the less fortunate be helped?
    Please define "less fortunate" as you use it here.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Enough for a comfortable existence. A house or apartment big enough for their family, some appliances, a few basic luxuries, health care, quality education, maybe a car. That kind of thing. They shouldn't have to go deep into debt to afford any of those things, either.
    If the person can't pay for those things themselves, for whatever reason, who should pay for them?

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You must be lying about getting out of poverty because a lot of people on this board say it is just simply not possible.
    I'm sure that some think it is impossible. There are many stories of rags to riches. Also, I find it interesting how many legal immigrants do so well here.

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    Re: Billionaires: free to romp or responsible to fellow citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I'm sure that some think it is impossible. There are many stories of rags to riches. Also, I find it interesting how many legal immigrants do so well here.
    the left don't want people thinking they can actually make it on their own

    they need GOVERNMENT to help them



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