View Poll Results: Who do you think is the greatest revolutionary of the 20th century?

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  • Malcolm X

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  • Martin Luther King

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  • Gandhi

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    Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    So I wanted to know who you think is the greatest revolutionary of the 20th century. I will have my decision in while, as I need to think about it.
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    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Lenin, there was no revolution in the 20th century more influential in shaping world events than the Russian Revolution.
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    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Tough call. My heart says Mandela, but my brain says that Gandhi's achievement has been the most successful and his legacy the most enduring. Che's contribution I believe was the most selfless and committed.
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    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    So I wanted to know who you think is the greatest revolutionary of the 20th century. I will have my decision in while, as I need to think about it.
    How are you using "greatest", the one you agree with the most or the one that was the most effective or ...?

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    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    I would hardly call MLK a revolutionary. More of a reformer.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I would hardly call MLK a revolutionary. More of a reformer.
    Well, aren't you militant.

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    Vandana Shiva, Sylvia Earle, Carolyne Merchant and Rachel Carson... for me.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 07-19-11 at 11:28 AM.

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    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Vladimir Lenin. The man was great, and I fully believe the USSR would have been so much better if he had been it's leader for a longer time.
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    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I would hardly call MLK a revolutionary. More of a reformer.
    Quite right. MLK did not seek the overthrow of the system of government or the incumbent government of the day, hence he was no revolutionary. The other three did.
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    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Well, aren't you militant.

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    Vandana Shiva, Sylvia Earle, Carolyne Merchant and Rachel Carson... for me.
    You tree-hugger, you!

    Anyway, revolutionary doesn't have to be militant in order to be a revolutionary. MLK wanted to change the system from within, not overturn and recreate it from without. That makes him a reformer as opposed to a revolutionary.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 07-19-11 at 11:33 AM.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Well, aren't you militant.

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    Vandana Shiva, Sylvia Earle, Carolyne Merchant and Rachel Carson... for me.
    I think the OP was thinking more in terms of revolutionary politics than revolutionary in the sense of changing pre-existing forms of thinking.
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    "Austerity is used as a cover to reconfigure society and increase inequality and injustice." - Jeremy Corbyn

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