View Poll Results: Who do you think is the greatest revolutionary of the 20th century?

Voters
36. You may not vote on this poll
  • Che Guevara

    2 5.56%
  • Malcolm X

    0 0%
  • Martin Luther King

    5 13.89%
  • Gandhi

    16 44.44%
  • Other (please note)

    13 36.11%
Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3456 LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 54

Thread: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

  1. #41
    Educator Helvidius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Good ol' US of A
    Last Seen
    02-01-17 @ 12:41 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    735

    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Assuming "great" means most influential, I would have to say Adolf Hitler.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

  2. #42
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    05-01-14 @ 03:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    12,879

    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    I doubt anyone but you can see it.
    They say the line between Genius and Insanity is very thin at times.

  3. #43
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    11-29-16 @ 07:28 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    1,441

    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    I'll go with Trotsky and FDR. Most don't think of FDR as a 'Revolutionary' but he indeed was, and his plan to dismantle European colonialism at the first opportunity after the end of WW II was continued by the following Presidents. Some of that backfired, of course, but in the long run it was necessary.

    Most of those in the list weren't revolutionaries. I suppose Che could pass for kind of an ersatz media icon, mainly useful for the college campus T-shirt market and a boost to beret makers sales. As a 'Revolutionary' he was a distinct failure.

    Anybody remember Ho Chi Minh sandals?

    My fave from the list would be Malcolm X. Quite an intellectual and activist journey that man's life took, and if he hadn't been assassinated would have been one of the great leaders in U.S. history.

    MLK was deliberately chosen by the Kennedys and the Liberal Establishment as the 'Offical Black Leader', and of course the press duly followed along. Hell, LBJ was more revolutionary than MLK, and accomplished a lot more.
    Last edited by Oberon; 08-21-11 at 06:29 PM.

  4. #44
    Sage
    Harry Guerrilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Not affiliated with other libertarians.
    Last Seen
    09-01-17 @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,955

    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Norman Borlaug. He saved over a billion people from starvation.
    Definitely influential in a positive way.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
    —Adam Shepard

  5. #45
    Basketball Nerd
    StillBallin75's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Vilseck, Germany
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 07:52 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    21,896

    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    Assuming "great" means most influential, I would have to say Adolf Hitler.
    What exactly did Hitler revolutionize?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

  6. #46
    Sage
    Harry Guerrilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Not affiliated with other libertarians.
    Last Seen
    09-01-17 @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,955

    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    What exactly did Hitler revolutionize?
    Modern government was greatly influenced by Hitler.
    He wasn't Time "man of the year" in 1938, for no reason.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
    —Adam Shepard

  7. #47
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Last Seen
    09-24-17 @ 04:38 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    29,261

    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Modern government was greatly influenced by Hitler.
    He wasn't Time "man of the year" in 1938, for no reason.
    I always understood Hitler to be anti modernism.

    Degenerate art is the English translation of the German entartete Kunst, a term adopted by the Nazi regime in Germany to describe virtually all modern art. Such art was banned on the grounds that it was un-German or Jewish Bolshevist in nature, and those identified as degenerate artists were subjected to sanctions. These included being dismissed from teaching positions, being forbidden to exhibit or to sell their art, and in some cases being forbidden to produce art entirely.
    Degenerate Art was also the title of an exhibition, mounted by the Nazis in Munich in 1937, consisting of modernist artworks chaotically hung and accompanied by text labels deriding the art. Designed to inflame public opinion against modernism, the exhibition subsequently traveled to several other cities in Germany and Austria.
    While modern styles of art were prohibited, the Nazis promoted paintings and sculptures that were narrowly traditional in manner and that exalted the "blood and soil" values of racial purity, militarism, and obedience. Similarly, music was expected to be tonal and free of any jazz influences; films and plays were censored.[1]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art

  8. #48
    Basketball Nerd
    StillBallin75's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Vilseck, Germany
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 07:52 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    21,896

    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Modern government was greatly influenced by Hitler.
    He wasn't Time "man of the year" in 1938, for no reason.
    Well, fwiw, "YOU" was the time person of the year at one point.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

  9. #49
    Guru
    Councilman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Riverside, County, CA.
    Last Seen
    11-04-11 @ 10:16 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,454
    Blog Entries
    10

    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    The greatest revolutionary of the 20th century is the same revolutionary of the first century. He made it possible for us to be reborn and with that rebirth we are given ever lasting life. What a great and wonderful revolutionary concept.
    Of those you listed I have to pick Gandhi for his total non violent position.

  10. #50
    Basketball Nerd
    StillBallin75's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Vilseck, Germany
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 07:52 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    21,896

    Re: Greatest 20th Century Revolutionary

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The greatest revolutionary of the 20th century is the same revolutionary of the first century. He made it possible for us to be reborn and with that rebirth we are given ever lasting life. What a great and wonderful revolutionary concept.
    Of those you listed I have to pick Gandhi for his total non violent position.
    the concept of everlasting life did not begin with Christ. And, (this is just a personal opinion), if everlasting life were to exist, I would think that it existed before Jesus came into the world, as well as after.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3456 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •