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Thread: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Agree....but I think we may have a problem, mind you "I think", not I know....
    Sadly, one cannot trust either side.
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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I imagine it had something to do with the notion that the cuts we knew of were gimmicks, and the rest were unspecified.

    I tell you what, i promise 8 trillion in tax increases.... to take place at some point in the future... under a general program.... of stuff that will happen..... after a commission makes it's report and looks at it and kicks it to a sub-committee which will kick it to another commission before making their non-binding report to the full committee......

    in return for which, you agree to privatize Medicare and Social Security. tomorrow.



    what? you're going to walk away from 8 trillion in increased revenue?


    gosh, kandahar just won't take "yes" for an answer. what an intransgient he is.
    This analogy doesn't hold up because the Democrats aren't asking for immediate tax hikes. To the best knowledge, that possibility was never even in the cards.
    Whereas many of the spending cuts ARE immediate (or near-immediate). Even the ones that aren't were at least binding.
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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    I voted that neither party can be trusted. Politicians, in general, are a very untrustworthy bunch and are the dregs on mankind in my opinion.

    But, all that being said, God forbid the power goes to the republicans. Not that the democrats could probably do any better but the odds are surely in their favor, in my opinion, because any and everything the GOP has touched in the last 15 years has turned in a smelly pile of stinking ****. They should not even be allowed to park cars or walk dogs.

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    This analogy doesn't hold up because the Democrats aren't asking for immediate tax hikes. To the best knowledge, that possibility was never even in the cards.
    Whereas many of the spending cuts ARE immediate (or near-immediate). Even the ones that aren't were at least binding.
    the spending cuts have also proven ephemeral. not maintaining surge levels in Afghanistan for 10 years is not a "spending cut". neither is reductions in interest payments resulting from increased taxes. Mutterings about "seeking efficiencies" does not count as a "spending cut", no matter what number you put on it.

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Obama was on CNN this afternoon saying that Congress has offered to allow him to increase the debt ceiling until after the election.

    In other words, they want to point fingers at Obama and say, while campaigning, that they didn't support raising the debt ceiling, then come back and vote to raise the debt ceiling. Of course, they will claim spending cuts, but those will be, in cpwill's word, "ephemeral".

    That's a good word, ephemeral, very descriptive of the sorts of spending cuts that Congress is considering, much like their detailed lists of just what is to be cut.
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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I voted that neither party can be trusted. Politicians, in general, are a very untrustworthy bunch and are the dregs on mankind in my opinion.

    But, all that being said, God forbid the power goes to the republicans. Not that the democrats could probably do any better but the odds are surely in their favor, in my opinion, because any and everything the GOP has touched in the last 15 years has turned in a smelly pile of stinking ****. They should not even be allowed to park cars or walk dogs.
    Cuz democrats taking the debt from 9 trillion to 14.5 trillion since 2007...and not even so much as passing an annual operating budget...that was absolutely BRILLIANT management by democrats. Unemployment at a steady state 9+% with real unemployment well over 20%...thats just freqin AWESOME.

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Neither.

    The Republican's arrogance got us into this mess, and it won't get us out of this mess.

    The Democrat's arrogance will stop them from compromising.

    But at the last minute the Democrats, who are not arrogant enough to allow the country to default will sign whatever the Republicans put in-front of them at the last minute, no matter how stupid it is. Then the Republicans will run around screaming how they solved all our problems.

    Ultimately we will end up with an awful compromise. The wealthy will continue to not be taxed enough. Their wealth will continue to grow, and, when the middle and lower class no longer hold enough wealth to pay the bills we will be in this mess all over again.

    We need a revolution. Temporary communism could even out the wealth, then temporary fascism could get our economy going again, after that we can revert back to democracy. As long as we get rid of the communist government fast our infrastructure will not be destroyed, and if we get rid of the fascist government after they get the economy going again we will not destroy ourselves with over-aggression.

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post

    That's a good word, ephemeral, very descriptive of the sorts of spending cuts that Congress is considering, much like their detailed lists of just what is to be cut.
    Yes good woody sort of word ephemeral... EFFF... EMMM... ARILLLLLL. Yes yes... nice and woody. Not tinny, no. Woody ...
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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Who's spamming the Republican vote? Can we get an IP check?
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