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Thread: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    No one can be trusted as neither side truly cares about the country. If they did, we'd of had a solution to this debt problem, in addition to a hell of a lot more legislation that would have made this country better and more equal (like imprisoning the Wall Street fat cats who got bailed out)
    There is a side that I trust less. Itís the side that applies the most dogma. In business and in the lab Iíve found that dogma gets in the way of working solutions. Simply more legislation is not good, opportunities for bad are allowed in via that. Legislation that undoes earlier legislation and is simpler more effective is best. BTY, on what basis would you imprison the Wall Street fat cats who got bailed out? Did they break a law or did they have the laws written to allow them to do what they did?

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I wouldn't say I trust either of them persay...but historically the Democrats have had a better track record, and even today seem to be more serious about long-term solvency (as opposed to easily-reversible discretionary cuts). So I suppose I trust them more than I trust the Republicans...but neither party is particularly trustworthy on anything other than doing what they think is in their own best political interests.
    wait a minute. Republicans are the only ones proposing structural reforms.... but Democrats are the ones that are more serious about long term solvency?

    i mean, I voted "neither", but that's utter crap. Democrats have no desire whatsoever to do anything but increase spending dramatically in the next few years.

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    I trust the new attitude in the Republican party... I think these instances have changed it drastically for the better.

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Historically, democrats have been much more fiscally responsible, at least for the last 40 years. I see nothing to suggest that has changed in any way. This same crop of republicans who are calling for cuts now will be the first ones in line to jack up spending like like as soon as they have the presidency and senate.
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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Historically, democrats have been much more fiscally responsible, at least for the last 40 years. I see nothing to suggest that has changed in any way. This same crop of republicans who are calling for cuts now will be the first ones in line to jack up spending like like as soon as they have the presidency and senate.
    I highly doubt someone like Herman Cain would do that...

    And democrats have had their goods and bads with financial responsibility... and Obama is not one of the good ones.

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I highly doubt someone like Herman Cain would do that...

    And democrats have had their goods and bads with financial responsibility... and Obama is not one of the good ones.
    Herman Cain...
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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    I trust only a fearful government. Both parties blow chunks. The only reason the republicans are taking a tough stance on deficit reduction (forget about touching the debt...these ****heads think 110 billion dollars is a significant amount when you have an annual deficit of 1.5 trillion) is that they know the tea party voters tossed out several republicans and will likely do it again in 2012. The only reason Obama is even considering cuts is because he wants to get re-elected. And where the **** is the Senate in all of this? I know where budgets originate, but the long term solution requires both the house and senate.

    If 'the people' demonstrate they will vote those worthless bastards out, they will act...both sides. Not because they are driven to make positive change but because they want to preserve their party power.

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    With all of the stupid chest-thumping, grandstanding, blaming, and partisan hack accusations, I doubt either party will actually do anything but throw a grain of sand on the beach.
    I tend to agree.

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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    wait a minute. Republicans are the only ones proposing structural reforms.... but Democrats are the ones that are more serious about long term solvency?
    Well...the Democrats are more supportive of reforming our tax code (although I will grant that there is some bipartisan support, albeit with too many caveats from the Republican side). They're also the only ones with serious ideas on health care reform; the Affordable Care Act was a good start, but I think it alone will be insufficient for reining in costs. Neither party seems serious about cutting defense spending, although doing so is more of a liberal idea than a conservative idea. Social security is the only one of the four where I would probably give the edge to the Republicans.

    i mean, I voted "neither", but that's utter crap. Democrats have no desire whatsoever to do anything but increase spending dramatically in the next few years.
    Most of the spending increases in the past few years have been either 1) recession-related and therefore short-term, 2) standard discretionary spending bumps that have always occurred and which don't pose a fiscal threat, and 3) start-up costs for the Affordable Care Act, which the CBO says will reduce the deficit in the long-term.

    The Democrats have been far from profligate spenders under the circumstances. Obama in particular has been much more fiscally responsible than the congressional Republican leadership, and certainly moreso than Bush ever was.
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    Re: Who do you trust to control the Deficit and solve our Debt Crises?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well...the Democrats are more supportive of reforming our tax code (although I will grant that there is some bipartisan support, albeit with too many caveats from the Republican side). They're also the only ones with serious ideas on health care reform; the Affordable Care Act was a good start, but I think it alone will be insufficient for reining in costs. Neither party seems serious about cutting defense spending, although doing so is more of a liberal idea than a conservative idea. Social security is the only one of the four where I would probably give the edge to the Republicans.



    Most of the spending increases in the past few years have been either 1) recession-related and therefore short-term, 2) standard discretionary spending bumps that have always occurred and which don't pose a fiscal threat, and 3) start-up costs for the Affordable Care Act, which the CBO says will reduce the deficit in the long-term.

    The Democrats have been far from profligate spenders under the circumstances. Obama in particular has been much more fiscally responsible than the congressional Republican leadership, and certainly moreso than Bush ever was.

    , brother, you are out of your mind.

    1. Republicans are the only ones to have voted on either Tax Reform or structural reform of the entitlements. See: House 2012 Budget.
    2. Republicans have done good work in the states doing the same. See: Indiana's HSA's for public workers and Medicaid recipients
    3. The ACA only "reduces the deficit" if you think you can spend the same $500 Billion twice, that unemployment is currently at 7.5%, growth is currently at 4%, and the Congress will not pass the doc fix bill. CBO said as long as you collect 10 years of taxes and only pay out 6 years of benefits, and you do the above mentioned things, you can get it to not raise the deficit. since that is in no way "the long term" and since none of those things are true (you cannot spend the same money twice), the ACA is a budget buster. Attempting to implement it will push us over the edge of our ability to borrow. Given consistent high opposition to Obamacare, and consistent high support for it's repeal, I'm thinking we're going to choose to get rid of it instead.
    4. No, the "short term" increases in discretionary spending (which rose quickly under Bush and rose much much faster under Obama) have merely established a "new baseline." nowhere in his budgets has Obama called for reducing the size of the federal government back down to 19-20% of GDP
    5. Democrats have indeed been the more profligate spenders - compare the budgets that came out after they took the House to those before hand.




    and that's with exceedingly rosy assumptions. short term my buttocks.

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