View Poll Results: Who is the greatest US President of the 20th Century?

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  • Teddy Roosevelt

    12 20.00%
  • Taft

    3 5.00%
  • Wilson

    1 1.67%
  • Coolidge

    7 11.67%
  • FDR

    11 18.33%
  • Kennedy

    5 8.33%
  • LBJ

    0 0%
  • Reagan

    13 21.67%
  • Clinton

    7 11.67%
  • Other

    1 1.67%
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Thread: Greatest 20th Century President

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    Re: Greatest 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    He certainly got lucky. He got to leave the mess for others to clean up after him.
    Exactly. Just like Reagan, Coolidge doesn't take the heat for the mess he created.
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    Re: Greatest 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    No, it was due to billions of dollars going into ridiculously watered down stocks and pyramid schemes. Blaming the Federal Reserve is more than a little ironic seeing as how it's policies reflected the very same market philosophies of those running the pyramid schemes and banks of the time.
    Even if that were true, what role did Coolidge play in any of that? And the Fed did not act to prevent bank runs (one of it's primary responsibilities to act as lender of last resort) which caused a shortening of the money supply and turned the recession into a depression.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Greatest 20th Century President

    Reagan... created the biggest modern economic boom and closed out the cold war.

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    Re: Greatest 20th Century President

    Reagan was the worst president in my lifetime. Of course that only includes the last 58 years.

    He dismantled our progressive tax system, created more debt than all presidents before him and when he was presented with an EPA report linking air pollution to a sky-rocketing increase of skin cancer, told us we would just have to start wearing sunscreen and broad brimmed hats because industry couldn't afford more stringent air pollution standards. At the time they were paying one half of one percent of profits on air pollution control.
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    Re: Greatest 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    Even if that were true, what role did Coolidge play in any of that? And the Fed did not act to prevent bank runs (one of it's primary responsibilities to act as lender of last resort) which caused a shortening of the money supply and turned the recession into a depression.
    It's not an 'if', it is true. Coolidge is famous for not doing a damn thing about anything during his entire presidency, so it's disingenuous to ask what role he played in any case, but he could have lobbied to keep the Fed from feeding the call loan market and forbidding member banks from participating in it.

    As for preventing bank runs, as I recall that's what was happening. Not all banks were members, in fact few were, so that's not an issue.

    It's noteworthy how 'conservatives' run crying to the Fed for help when their Ponzi schemes crash, and when it runs out of bailout money because the fraud was just too massive it then gets blamed for the 'free marketeers' self-created problems by not printing enough money to save their scams.
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    Re: Greatest 20th Century President

    Reagan is my choice.
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    Re: Greatest 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    From Teddy to Clinton, take your pick. Sorry, if you were going to select McKinley, but let's be honest...

    Also, please discuss who you picked and why you chose him!



    PS: the max amount of options a poll allows for is 10. If you like someone not on the list, sorry for the inconvenience!
    McKinley really didn't last long enough into the 20th century to count anyway.

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    Re: Greatest 20th Century President

    Reagan all the way. Carter would rank as the worst for the 20th Century. Obama already ranks as the worst for the 21st century and as already knocked Carter out of the number one spot for overall worst President.

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    Re: Greatest 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    It's not an 'if', it is true. Coolidge is famous for not doing a damn thing about anything during his entire presidency, so it's disingenuous to ask what role he played in any case, but he could have lobbied to keep the Fed from feeding the call loan market and forbidding member banks from participating in it.

    As for preventing bank runs, . Not all banks were members, in fact few were, so that's not an issue.

    It's noteworthy how 'conservatives' run crying to the Fed for help when their Ponzi schemes crash, and when it runs out of bailout money because the fraud was just too massive it then gets blamed for the 'free marketeers' self-created problems by not printing enough money to save their scams.
    And where in the Constitution does it say the President can do such a thing? As for lobbying the Fed... are you basically admitting he couldn't actually do anything?

    Coolidge kept federal spending to a minimum, did little regulating of industries, and lowered taxes. These all lead to a prospering US economy. If anything, Hoover is more blameworthy for the Great Depression than Coolidge.

    And I'm not sure what your point is about bank runs. There were bank runs taking place all over the country. The Fed could easily have stepped in as a lender of last resort, but it did not. Thus you had a vast shortening of the money supply.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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