View Poll Results: Is the world becoming overpopulated? Should we do something about it?

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  • The world is becoming overpopulated; we should take action, by imposing birth limits

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  • The world is becoming overpopulated; we should impose birth limits and not allow immigrants

    2 5.41%
  • The world is becoming overpopulated, but we should not take action; let things work themselves out

    9 24.32%
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Thread: Overpopulation and Economy

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    Re: Overpopulation and Economy

    If everyone one on earth lived a lifestyle like that of Americans and Canadians, the world would not have the resources to support the population we currently have.

    If everyone on earth lived a lifestyle like that of a vegatarian Indian living in a small shanty style home, the world could probably support more then double the number of people we currently have ( the US could under such conditions support a population of over a billion people easily)

    It truely depends on the living conditions that people would generally want to live under.

    I would rather live a lifestyle similar to that of what we have in Canada and the US then of the poor in India, I bet the poor in India would generally live a lifestyle similar to that of what we have in Canada. So under that premise, we are overpopulated
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    Re: Overpopulation and Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The world may be becoming overpopulated. But I don't think anything major needs to be done about it (such as controlling birth rates). Things will sort itself out eventually.

    I figure a few things will happen which will make the point moot.

    1: The population will even out naturally to where its a 1:1 birth/death rate...or less of a birth rate but which will pick up again eventually as the need warrants it.

    2: World War which will make the last two pale in comparrison thereby reducing the world population drastically. (hopefully in such a way as to not destroy humanity all together)

    3: We will expand into space in which case overpopulation just will not be able to happen as people will go to other places which has more room. Perhaps even make generational ships to travel to other star systems. (assuming that we haven't cracked some way around FTL travel)

    I consider #2 to be the most likely to happen with #3 running a close second depending entirely upon situation. #1 being possible but not likely.
    I'll give more creedance to #1 as the eventuality of a super-bug which is resistant to modern medicines is probably inevitable. Just the widespread use of antibiotics and those same drugs being found in almost everything we eat or drink will lead to something that will run rampant sooner or later. Sure a World War is possible but too costly at the current level and mitigation of nukes.... more like smaller regional wars rather than one big one like in the past. As far as space, we're 1,000 year out IMO of going anywhere. We need breakthroughs in energy, propulsion and physics like never seen before in our history - otherwise, we're stuck on this rock looking out the window.
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    Re: Overpopulation and Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'll give more creedance to #1 as the eventuality of a super-bug which is resistant to modern medicines is probably inevitable. Just the widespread use of antibiotics and those same drugs being found in almost everything we eat or drink will lead to something that will run rampant sooner or later. Sure a World War is possible but too costly at the current level and mitigation of nukes.... more like smaller regional wars rather than one big one like in the past. As far as space, we're 1,000 year out IMO of going anywhere. We need breakthroughs in energy, propulsion and physics like never seen before in our history - otherwise, we're stuck on this rock looking out the window.
    Even in wars, disease is a far bigger killer then the fighting (generally)
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    Re: Overpopulation and Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'll give more creedance to #1 as the eventuality of a super-bug which is resistant to modern medicines is probably inevitable. Just the widespread use of antibiotics and those same drugs being found in almost everything we eat or drink will lead to something that will run rampant sooner or later. Sure a World War is possible but too costly at the current level and mitigation of nukes.... more like smaller regional wars rather than one big one like in the past. As far as space, we're 1,000 year out IMO of going anywhere. We need breakthroughs in energy, propulsion and physics like never seen before in our history - otherwise, we're stuck on this rock looking out the window.
    We are overdue for a pandemic. The last one happened in the early 1900s (Spanish Flu), and usually there is a major pandemic each century.
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    Re: Overpopulation and Economy

    Tell people humans are rich in anti-oxidants.

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    Re: Overpopulation and Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'll give more creedance to #1 as the eventuality of a super-bug which is resistant to modern medicines is probably inevitable. Just the widespread use of antibiotics and those same drugs being found in almost everything we eat or drink will lead to something that will run rampant sooner or later. Sure a World War is possible but too costly at the current level and mitigation of nukes.... more like smaller regional wars rather than one big one like in the past. As far as space, we're 1,000 year out IMO of going anywhere. We need breakthroughs in energy, propulsion and physics like never seen before in our history - otherwise, we're stuck on this rock looking out the window.
    Actually we have a propulsion system right now that can get to Mars in about 6 months. And they are currently developing an ion engine that can get us to Mars in just 39 days called VASIMR. (which also means about a half hour flight to the moon) Note that less powerful ion engines have already been used in a few of NASA's programs. Including the DAWN spacecraft which is currently heading out to the asteroids Vesta and Ceres.

    We also have a biosphere that could work on Mars that only cost 200 million over the period of 22 years currently residing in AZ.

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    Re: Overpopulation and Economy

    More people = more demand.
    More demand = economic growth

    The world is more than capable of supporting the number of people on it, and more - the issue isn't global capacity, but distribution.

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    Re: Overpopulation and Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually we have a propulsion system right now that can get to Mars in about 6 months. And they are currently developing an ion engine that can get us to Mars in just 39 days called VASIMR. (which also means about a half hour flight to the moon) Note that less powerful ion engines have already been used in a few of NASA's programs. Including the DAWN spacecraft which is currently heading out to the asteroids Vesta and Ceres.

    We also have a biosphere that could work on Mars that only cost 200 million over the period of 22 years currently residing in AZ.

    Living on another planet is closer than you may think.

    Perhaps in the next 100-200 years locally --- moon, mars, maybe as far as Io. But until we approach or surpass the speed of light... it's all basically moot.
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    Re: Overpopulation and Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    More people = more demand.
    More demand = economic growth

    The world is more than capable of supporting the number of people on it, and more - the issue isn't global capacity, but distribution.
    Yes, the unequal distribution of resources.

    For example, the US has less than 4% of the world's population, but uses 25% of the world's resources. The concentration of wealth and resources causes more suffering than most people realize or will admit.
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