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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    posting sources, unless its about clearly obvious things like the color of the sky, the date of America's birth, the first President of the USA, the chemical composition of water......deserves a source.

    folks who think they are above posting sources, tend to be arrogant and uninformed.

    not posting sources, reflects very poorly upon their arguments and their views.
    But you take it to the other extreme; you want sources for almost any opponent's post, yet you don't seem to offer many of your own. Imo, a balance needs to be found in regards to cites.

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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    But you take it to the other extreme; you want sources for almost any opponent's post, yet you don't seem to offer many of your own. Imo, a balance needs to be found in regards to cites.
    demanding sources for EVERYTHING someone says is silly, unless of course that person consistently and routinely makes claims that can only be trusted if verified.

    when discussing complicated legal matters like gun-control, or scientific matters like the beginning of human-life, or global warming, or Evolution, sources should usually be provided when making serious claims.

    I'm sorry, but unless the Mods allow us to post images of our college degrees, I'm not gonna trust anyone unless they have a great track record of being knowledgeable and correct regarding specific subjects.

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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    You raise a good point. Common knowledge.

    What exactly passes as common knowledge, politically?

    I've had instances when I state something that's pretty much common knowledge---such as most liberals mocked Bush---and others demand I cite it.
    Sometimes conventional wisdom is mistaken for common knowledge.
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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Sometimes conventional wisdom is mistaken for common knowledge.
    True. I once saw an episode of "Who wants to be a Millionaire" where the gal that was the contestant didn't know the name of King Arthur's sword. That blew my mind considering that as I was growing up I don't think I could think of a single month where King Arthur and the Knights of the Round wasn't mentioned in one of my classes or on TV.

    Generally I won't post a source unless specifically asked to. After all, this is a debate forum...not a factual discourse forum. Which to me means common sense is mandatory. I really hate it when people pretend to be dumb just to be Aholes and/or to make you work. And after posting here for over 3 years its generally easy to tell if someone that posts regularlly is pretending to be dumb or not.

    Lately it depends on the subject on whether I will or not also. For example illegal immigration. I recently posted a post basically stating to look in past posts as certain stuff had already been discussed and pointed out. Frankly I'm tired of re-posting links a dozen times over just because people can't be bothered to look up information on thier own. I mean seriously, I'm not the best at looking info up so if I can find info then I know darn well that others can.
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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    True. I once saw an episode of "Who wants to be a Millionaire" where the gal that was the contestant didn't know the name of King Arthur's sword. That blew my mind considering that as I was growing up I don't think I could think of a single month where King Arthur and the Knights of the Round wasn't mentioned in one of my classes or on TV.

    Generally I won't post a source unless specifically asked to. After all, this is a debate forum...not a factual discourse forum. Which to me means common sense is mandatory. I really hate it when people pretend to be dumb just to be Aholes and/or to make you work. And after posting here for over 3 years its generally easy to tell if someone that posts regularlly is pretending to be dumb or not.

    Lately it depends on the subject on whether I will or not also. For example illegal immigration. I recently posted a post basically stating to look in past posts as certain stuff had already been discussed and pointed out. Frankly I'm tired of re-posting links a dozen times over just because people can't be bothered to look up information on thier own. I mean seriously, I'm not the best at looking info up so if I can find info then I know darn well that others can.
    I usually require someone to post a link when I think they're making things up. Especially people who post up statistics all the time - or make generalizations over and over and over. I mean, everyone does it to a certain extent but really... when I know someone's making it up and they start playing the troll game, it's time to just do something more constructive. It all depends on who you're debating with too...
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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I usually require someone to post a link when I think they're making things up. Especially people who post up statistics all the time - or make generalizations over and over and over. I mean, everyone does it to a certain extent but really... when I know someone's making it up and they start playing the troll game, it's time to just do something more constructive. It all depends on who you're debating with too...
    This is fine imo. Trolls deserve to be "brought to bear" so to speak. Unfortenately trolls don't normally post sources even when asked.
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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    show me a man who doesn't feel the need to post evidence and sources, and I'll show you a man who doesn't know what he's talking about.

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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    show me a man who doesn't feel the need to post evidence and sources, and I'll show you a man who doesn't know what he's talking about.
    *Points at self* You see one right here. I feel no need to post sources. This is the internetz and everything is to be taken with a grain of salt. If people believe me so be it. If they don't and don't ask for evidence I provide none. But if they don't believe me and and ask for sources I will post em. In otherwords your statement would be more true if it had instead stated something to the effect of...

    "Show me a man who doesn't want evidence or sources, and I'll show you a man who doesn't know what he's talking about."

    Everyone wants facts and evidence to back up other peoples claims...hardly any care to post thier own initially.
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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    *Points at self* You see one right here...
    well, we don't have to ALWAYS post sources with our claims.

    but if requested, one should have the honesty & integrity to provide them.

    and none of this "look it up yourself if you care that much".

    if you respect the debate & respect yourself, you will back-up your claims.

    its that simple.

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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    well, we don't have to ALWAYS post sources with our claims.

    but if requested, one should have the honesty & integrity to provide them.

    and none of this "look it up yourself if you care that much".

    if you respect the debate & respect yourself, you will back-up your claims.

    its that simple.
    I generally won't tell people to look it up themselves...unless it's been posted here at DP already. Like I said above...I'm tired of reposting the same links over and over.
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