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Thread: Does posting sources while debating matter?

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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    I blame the dems for pandering to people who don't pay taxes by telling them that the rich need to pay more taxes and the rich don't pay enough taxes or their "fair share" of taxes.

    Can you deny that its the dems who mainly claim the rich need to pay more?



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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I blame the dems for pandering to people who don't pay taxes by telling them that the rich need to pay more taxes and the rich don't pay enough taxes or their "fair share" of taxes.

    Can you deny that its the dems who mainly claim the rich need to pay more?
    Why don't you blame the Republicans who actually created the situation where the 47% you demonize for not paying federal taxes?

    I do not deny that the calls for the rich to pay more come from the Democrats. I am sure that is one reason you despise and hate them since keeping more of your money is a major goal for you. But why is not some of your vitriol extended to the party who created the 47% who do not pay federal income taxes when it is that reality that seems to irk you as much ad Dems advocating higher taxes on the wealthy?

    That is what I do not get and truthfully see as either you giving your boys a free pass that they do not deserve or its simply outright political hypocrisy in that you rant and rail and complain loudly about the 47% but have made a decision to absolve the Republicans from the blame for them.
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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    I said the worst thing bush did was to drop all those people off of the tax Roles. Of course that is how he got enough votes to get the tax cuts for those who do pay too much



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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    It is true, sources have countless good uses, and bad uses.

    The best is when you post a source, and your own source was falsified by the source itself, or the media, etc. It both starts, and loses the debate all in one post!

    The worst is the death by paperwork. When someone unloads 5050 pages of source material and claims you have to read it to refute their post, it's not even a debate, it's a forfeit by any other name.

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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    It really depends. If it's a point of fact, sources can be invaluable. If somone says Detroit is 50% smaller than it was 20 years ago, posting a source for the numbers would be useful. On the other hand, if someone is posting an opinion and they post a source that says Ann Coulter or Michael Moore agree with them, that would fall into the realm of totally worthless.

    I was discussing extraterrestrials with my children and my daughter said she knew they existed and had visited earth because of a story she'd read in the newspaper. The newspaper was the National Enquirer.

    When some people don't have a logical argument they start demanding sources and no matter what you give it doesn't meet their high standards. Baloney.

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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I said the worst thing bush did was to drop all those people off of the tax Roles. Of course that is how he got enough votes to get the tax cuts for those who do pay too much
    And was that a worthy bargain in your opinion? Was it an acceptable price to pay to cut taxes on the wealthy?
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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    When some people don't have a logical argument they start demanding sources and no matter what you give it doesn't meet their high standards.
    Indeed. It's impossible to have a real discussion with ideologues, anyway; they aren't interested in that in the first place.

    If you can't agree on what is fact and what is fiction, there is no 'debate' or whatever you want to call it on an issue. Just enjoy the humor and entertainment offered up.

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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Indeed. It's impossible to have a real discussion with ideologues, anyway; they aren't interested in that in the first place.

    If you can't agree on what is fact and what is fiction, there is no 'debate' or whatever you want to call it on an issue. Just enjoy the humor and entertainment offered up.
    I tend to agree. Whenever someone says, "It's common knowledge...," or "Everyone knows...." what follows is usually nonsense. If you are going to make an assertion such as "research shows" then I think a citation is incumbent.

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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    what I hate is when you give an opinion and then some douchebag wets themself and squeals for you to prove it.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

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    Re: Does posting sources while debating matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what I hate is when you give an opinion and then some douchebag wets themself and squeals for you to prove it.
    Me? I hate it when some DB doesn't understand your soruce, or worse yet, his own.



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