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Do You Want Higher Taxes?

About all you have here is some purely opinionated ideological garbage that at best is sophomoric.

right back at you-you are hateful towards those who have done well because you have had some bad luck
 
right back at you-you are hateful towards those who have done well because you have had some bad luck


Again a purely construed opinion on your behalf with little or no basis in empirical fact in an attempt to appeal to emotion.
 
Again a purely construed opinion on your behalf with little or no basis in empirical fact in an attempt to appeal to emotion.

your emotional bias to those who have done well permeates your post

tell me why should those who make 22% of the income and pay 40% of the income tax and all the death tax pay even MORE of the income tax burden?
 
OK. I just had to do this since Obama seems to think that 80% of Americans want higher taxes. Well......let's find out.:lamo

Five pages and no poll?
 
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your emotional bias to those who have done well permeates your post

tell me why should those who make 22% of the income and pay 40% of the income tax and all the death tax pay even MORE of the income tax burden?


First off there is no such thing as a death tax. Dead people can not pay taxes any more than they pay their bar tab.
 
About all you have here is some purely opinionated ideological garbage that at best is sophomoric.

and your rants about Buffett are opinionated envious nonsense. Buffett pays a higher rate on his salary than does his secretary. In fact he never pays a lower rate on like income than anyone else
 
First off there is no such thing as a death tax. Dead people can not pay taxes any more than they pay their bar tab.

Ah you have adopted the estate club fan club nonsense. Death tax is a well known description of a tax that vests when one dies and one is wealthy. Its as accurate as calling it an "Estate tax" and the IRS calls state "estate taxes" DEATH TAXES on 627 letters
 
Ah you have adopted the estate club fan club nonsense. Death tax is a well known description of a tax that vests when one dies and one is wealthy. Its as accurate as calling it an "Estate tax" and the IRS calls state "estate taxes" DEATH TAXES on 627 letters


Show me where it says "death tax "in the tax code and or the act of dieing is taxed.

Ya know you are not doing much to convince me that you know copious amounts about the tax code.

You have convinced me though that you posses a limited amount of rhetoric though.
 
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Show me where it says "death tax "in the tax code and or the act of dieing is taxed.

Ya know you are not doing much to convince me that you know copious amounts about the tax code.

You have convinced me though that you posses a copious amount of rhetoric though.

I guess you think politicians are going to apply accurate terms to their schemes

Its like Bill Clinton calling his gun ban a "safe street act"

You have convinced me you are avoiding all that is obvious that hurts your position
 
Show me where it says "death tax "in the tax code and or the act of dieing is taxed.

Ya know you are not doing much to convince me that you know copious amounts about the tax code.

You have convinced me though that you posses a limited amount of rhetoric though.

Show me where it says "separation of church and state" in the consitution? Does a rose by any other name smell as sweet? The labels are irrelevant, the function of the tax matters.
 
success? like Bernie Madoff? and all the other criminals/leeches on Wall Street?

Funny. Its funny he was found guilty of an action the government does everyday and people like yourself support when the government does it. Its funny that its a crime on one front but you sit back and use it as an example like its an accepted course of action, but ignore the other front where it actually is acceptable and you accept it.
 
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Show me where it says "death tax "in the tax code and or the act of dieing is taxed.

I wonder how else you get the assets of the dead if the dead aren't dead.
 
I wonder how else you get the assets of the dead if the dead aren't dead.


Even though the dead might occasionally vote I have never heard of a case where the dead have bought Cadillacs only the living do that as far as I know.
 
Even though the dead might occasionally vote I have never heard of a case where the dead have bought Cadillacs only the living do that as far as I know.

As far as I know the dead have wishes that don't include getting their assests taken. As far as I know the dead don't need representation as they rot. As far as I know the dead aren't going to get anything in return for their assets being taken. As far as I know this is just another revenue source the government needs to **** off with.
 
Even though the dead might occasionally vote I have never heard of a case where the dead have bought Cadillacs only the living do that as far as I know.

the estate confiscation fans desperately want to use pleasant sounding terms for that abomination which is really nothing more than a class envy based bit of vote buying that results in a surcharge on those who already pay too much tax. If the dems really believed the copious amount of BS they spew in favor of this crap, they would want to expand it. after all, if the heirs "don't deserve a windfall" that is true whether you are the beneficiary of a billion dollar estate or 100K. the reason why the dems only want it to apply to the somewhat rich and higher is because (just like repealing the bush tax cuts for everyone) would cost them too many votes

liberal tax policies are based mainly on winning elections and not on "fairness" or all the other high sounding nonsense they spew
 
Well when people are selling, there are usually people also buying, manufacturing, building, creating, and expanding.........and the government gets more revenue to boot.

Sounds like a win win.... win win win.... win win.......which is why most Democrats oppose it.
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until the bubble bursts....
 
Well then I guess they could take it with them.

Are you really this stupid or is this just for entertainment purposes?

I'm guessing since I have wishes like, I don't know, giving that money in FULL to my children, family, and friends I should just go **** myself since now for whatever reason the government has some sort of ownership to everything regardless. Do you actually buy property in this country or not?
 
Are you really this stupid or is this just for entertainment purposes?

I'm guessing since I have wishes like, I don't know, giving that money in FULL to my children, family, and friends I should just go **** myself since now for whatever reason the government has some sort of ownership to everything regardless.


the death tax is motivated by several disturbing philosophies

the first is pure envy-the "my parents weren't thrifty and his were" nonsense

the second is to appeal to those who are envious-ie rich democrats

the third comes from the uber wealthy. They understand that high estate taxes prevent the almost wealthy from getting to the top. They also understand that death taxes cause many valuable pieces of real estate and artwork to come up for sale thus allowing these uber wealthy a chance to acquire such priceless items

the final comes from those whose well being is based on this tax continuing. some charities and more often estate attorneys, insurance brokers and others who have a vested interest in that abomination continuing

what the death tax is is a surcharge on those who already pay too much of the taxes
 
I agree with you totally - I am wondering in what post you proved that the middle class is paying most - thanks :)

I forget the thread and do not feel like digging around for it. Sorry:)
 
I agree with you totally - I am wondering in what post you proved that the middle class is paying most - thanks :)

no one can; the top 5% pay more in federal income tax than the rest of the country combined
 
OK. I just had to do this since Obama seems to think that 80% of Americans want higher taxes. Well......let's find out.:lamo

Absolutely for higher taxes.

EVERY adult not currently paying taxes should be taxed their fair share, which should be determined by the amount of tax dollars they've recieved in the last year.

We must end "Spending in the Tax Code" by ending the Earned Income Tax Credit. Nor should ANYONE EVER get a refund larger than the taxes paid.

Period.

Then, once the people benefitting most from money stolen from taxpayers are forced to pay their fair share, lets see if their opinion on unlimited government spending changes.
 
no one can; the top 5% pay more in federal income tax than the rest of the country combined

I think the figure Kali was talking about had to do with the tax percentiles, i.e., while it appears as though we have a progressive tax system, the loopholes for the wealthy enable them to pay a lower percentiles, not sure if that is what Kali meant or not.
 
no one can; the top 5% pay more in federal income tax than the rest of the country combined

I do know these tax loopholes exist, as I have worked for a companies whose employees and the companies themselves, exploited them.
 
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