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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    It involves the concept of sharing resources, versus being stingy with them.
    "sharing"

    you mean from each according to their ability?

    so its bad to compete and succeed? do you believe in a zero sum game? that wealth is limited?



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you are saying someone who accumulates wealth by earning it has taken something from those who are unable to earn it themselves.

    like the world is one big grocery store and the rich go in and grab all the food before those poor people even can get in the doors?
    In its most simple form .. that is exactly what I am saying. Using the word "earn" instead of "accumulate", or "hoard" does not change the reality of the situation. Its simple, if some are better at swooping into the "grocery store" and taking more food than they can eat (letting that food go to waste) and as a result people starve due to the "grocery store" being depleted, they have indirectly engaged in killing.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    socialism is a pipe dream that appeals to losers and those who pander to them
    Since we've had a income tax, it's always been a progressive income tax. So according to TD, the U.S. is a bunch of losers?


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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    "sharing"

    you mean from each according to their ability?

    so its bad to compete and succeed? do you believe in a zero sum game? that wealth is limited?
    "to each according to their ability" .. I am not sure what you mean by that .. are you quoting something .. it seems familiar?

    I do not believe it is bad to compete .. I believe it is good to better ones self .. only not to the point of starving others ... does this answer your question?

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Since we've had a income tax, it's always been a progressive income tax. So according to TD, the U.S. is a bunch of losers?
    I know right? Lol! I will cut TD some slack though .. as there was a time in my adult life that I did not know that the U.S. has always used a progressive income tax .

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    In its most simple form .. that is exactly what I am saying. Using the word "earn" instead of "accumulate", or "hoard" does not change the reality of the situation. Its simple, if some are better at swooping into the "grocery store" and taking more food than they can eat (letting that food go to waste) and as a result people starve due to the "grocery store" being depleted, they have indirectly engaged in killing.

    so those who do well have a duty to feed those who are either lazy or incompetent?

    what value do the producers get for feeding those who are unable to do that for themselves?



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Since we've had a income tax, it's always been a progressive income tax. So according to TD, the U.S. is a bunch of losers?
    well it has always appealed to losers and those who gain power from their votes



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you are saying someone who accumulates wealth by earning it has taken something from those who are unable to earn it themselves.

    like the world is one big grocery store and the rich go in and grab all the food before those poor people even can get in the doors?
    Investors aren't earning money in the sense that they actually work for it. They use certain variables in their favor to build wealth by speculation. The economy favors those with capital to invest. It takes money to make money. Other people are merely a resource to be exploited. To claim that investors (the wealthiest class in society who consequently pay a lower percentage of their "income" in taxes) earn money is rather moronic.
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    "to each according to their ability" .. I am not sure what you mean by that .. are you quoting something .. it seems familiar?

    I do not believe it is bad to compete .. I believe it is good to better ones self .. only not to the point of starving others ... does this answer your question?

    I think there is plenty out there for those willing to work

    its why all those dirt poor illegals come here and they aren't starving. and most of them arent on the dole



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Investors aren't earning money in the sense that they actually work for it. They use certain variables in their favor to build wealth by speculation. The economy favors those with capital to invest. It takes money to make money. Other people are merely a resource to be exploited. To claim that investors (the wealthiest class in society who consequently pay a lower percentage of their "income" in taxes) earn money is rather moronic.
    but you assume most investors are filthy rich

    and you fail to understand that jacking up taxes on investment income is going to hurt just about everyone except the feelings of the envious who aren't smart enough to have investment income



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