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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I understand perfectly-you want people to pay based on their ability (from each according to their ability). I reject that. If you receive the same value you ought to pay the same but I will accept paying the same percentage even if that means the second guy pays many times more for the same value

    The blood from a turnip plan. Balance the budget on the backs of the poor! Just the kind of plan we have come to expect from you!
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah-the sad part is that some of them keep pretending they want it for the good of the nation rather than out of envy or to pander to the losers
    Again with this crap?

    It's honestly hard for me to imagine that someone can survive living off of such stereotypical views. But I guess that's because I don't stereotype people.

    I envy you nor anyone wealthy their wealth.

    If these so-called "job creators" are creating jobs and doing good for America, why does the economy suck so much? If these current tax rates are so good for us, why does everything stink so much?

    Cutting taxes didn't create jobs in 2001 or 2003, just as raising taxes in 1993 didn't kill jobs as we were told.

    The only thing that can create jobs is demand for products and services. The rich clearly aren't spending enough of their money right now - and there's a reason for that. There is only so much a person CAN spend.

    A hedge fund manager making $1 Billion a year has a much smaller stimulative impact on our economy than the 200 families making $50,000 a year do.

    This whole argument is about making this nation work its best for the most people - instead of simply looking out for approximately 1% of the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy
    If these so-called "job creators" are creating jobs and doing good for America, why does the economy suck so much? If these current tax rates are so good for us, why does everything stink so much?

    Cutting taxes didn't create jobs in 2001 or 2003, just as raising taxes in 1993 didn't kill jobs as we were told.
    So whenever a politician suggests government should create jobs, call bull****. Government doesn't create jobs.

    This whole argument is about making this nation work its best for the most people - instead of simply looking out for approximately 1% of the country.
    Consumers look out for the 1% by buying from their corporations and electing the puppet-type leaders.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The blood from a turnip plan. Balance the budget on the backs of the poor! Just the kind of plan we have come to expect from you!
    some gaping stupidity in that post. You fail to grasp two concepts

    1) many of those not paying any federal income taxes are not poor

    2) allowing people to continue to demand more and more government without making them pay anything for that only leads to more and more government and more and more spending



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    some gaping stupidity in that post.
    From your perspective that the working class are parasites, I can see how you reach that delusion.

    You fail to grasp two concepts

    1) many of those not paying any federal income taxes are not poor
    That is being looked at by both sides in the tax reform discussions.

    2) allowing people to continue to demand more and more government without making them pay anything for that only leads to more and more government and more and more spending
    We are in agreement there, if the rich had not received tax breaks for the last 3 decades we would not have spent near as much. Our unfunded ME wars are the biggest examples of that wasteful spending. Who ever heard of cutting peoples taxes with 2 decade long wars?
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    From your perspective that the working class are parasites, I can see how you reach that delusion.



    That is being looked at by both sides in the tax reform discussions.



    We are in agreement there, if the rich had not received tax breaks for the last 3 decades we would not have spent near as much. Our unfunded ME wars are the biggest examples of that wasteful spending. Who ever heard of cutting peoples taxes with 2 decade long wars?
    that last comment is really stupid. you cannot prove it and your constant rants about the rich are pathetic

    the "war on poverty" has cost billions more than any real war since that nonsense started and all it has done is created millions of dependent addicts



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that last comment is really stupid. you cannot prove it and your constant rants about the rich are pathetic..
    I'm sorry, but your constant rants against the poor & middle-class, are callous and pathetic.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    some gaping stupidity in that post. You fail to grasp two concepts

    1) many of those not paying any federal income taxes are not poor

    2) allowing people to continue to demand more and more government without making them pay anything for that only leads to more and more government and more and more spending
    1) many of those not paying any FIT are Fortune 500 corporations
    2) allowing the rich to demand more and more government without making them pay anything for that only leads to increased deficits and debt, and lower job creation
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that last comment is really stupid. you cannot prove it and your constant rants about the rich are pathetic

    the "war on poverty" has cost billions more than any real war since that nonsense started and all it has done is created millions of dependent addicts
    that last comment is really stupid. you cannot prove it and your constant rants about the middle class are pathetic

    the "war on poverty" has cost trillions less than real war since that nonsense started and all it has lifted millions out of poverty
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    during the hubub over the possible Federal govt. shutdown, ABC News pointed out that the Tea-Party plan to reduce the deficit did NOT include any cuts in farm-subsidies, much of which goes to wealthy agro-businesses, and even wealthy GOP farmers in Congress.

    lovely how that works, right?

    these Conservatives want to cut Medicaid and Medicare, but don't you DARE touch their farm subsidies!!!!!


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