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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Lol, no wonder why you like to personalize things instead of sticking to the subject at hand ... actually I was an assistant to the CFO and CEO of a company (sorry for the misspell ). Again this is irrelevant (see earlier post).
    and based on your subordinate status to a couple of executives you have determined that most or many business leaders are corrupt greedy and need to have the government take more and more of their wealth to punish them for their alleged misdeeds?



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why should the rich pay a higher rate? what is the moral argument for it
    Because while jealousy is a terrible thing a bit of compassion isn't a bad thing. I have no problem with giving someone struggling an assist. I've been there.

    So while I believe everyone should be paying something to be invested into the system, I have no problem paying more than the person making less. It's just a matter of where that line is drawn.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you support the concept of from each according to their ability?

    why should the rich pay a higher rate? what is the moral argument for it
    if that's what you want to call it, I agree with Thunder's statement ... and ... how is there not a moral argument for it?

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you support the concept of from each according to their ability?

    why should the rich pay a higher rate? what is the moral argument for it
    is that what you call the graduated income tax?

    all Presidents for the last 40 years have supported it. you calling Reagan and Bush Sr., Commies?

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Because while jealousy is a terrible thing a bit of compassion isn't a bad thing. I have no problem with giving someone struggling an assist. I've been there.

    So while I believe everyone should be paying something to be invested into the system, I have no problem paying more than the person making less. It's just a matter of where that line is drawn.
    both flat taxes and consumption taxes would achieve that without creating a mechanism where votes can be bought by promising the many that all tax increases will be imposed on only those in the top brackets

    what is wrong with saying that if the public wants more spending EVERYONE has to pay more? answer-because those who win elections by promising more spending don't want to alienate most of the voters by telling them that everyone of them will have higher taxes if spending goes up



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    is that what you call the graduated income tax?

    all Presidents for the last 40 years have supported it. you calling Reagan and Bush Sr., Commies?
    why do you ask such stupid questions: politicians want to win elections and telling the many that they should pay their fair share would lose elections



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    if that's what you want to call it, I agree with Thunder's statement ... and ... how is there not a moral argument for it?
    how is there a moral argument for it? the rich don't get any additional government benefits for paying most of the income taxes. they don't get more value received then those who have full citizenship benefits without being taxed for them



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and based on your subordinate status to a couple of executives you have determined that most or many business leaders are corrupt greedy and need to have the government take more and more of their wealth to punish them for their alleged misdeeds?
    Why did you include the word "subordinate"? How is that relevant? Actually, that was an influence, however, I am also educated, I have studied ethics, politics, psychology and sociology (at undergraduate and graduate levels). Also, I don't live under a rock, lol! It seems you ignored my previous statement ... so I'll state it again ... the internet tends to even things out

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    both flat taxes and consumption taxes would achieve that without creating a mechanism where votes can be bought by promising the many that all tax increases will be imposed on only those in the top brackets
    No doubt but I was just addressing your question.

    what is wrong with saying that if the public wants more spending EVERYONE has to pay more? answer-because those who win elections by promising more spending don't want to alienate most of the voters by telling them that everyone of them will have higher taxes if spending goes up
    Everyone should pay something. There are some that can't pay more. This is a generalized statement and has nothing to do with our current situation.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do you ask such stupid questions: politicians want to win elections and telling the many that they should pay their fair share would lose elections
    why are you so insulting in your posts? e.g. using the word "stupid" ? Do you think that makes you look smarter or that you will make any compromises with anyone? Seriously, its this kind of behavior that slows progress!

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