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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I oppose tax hikes on those who pay too much

    I prefer far less government and that would not require any tax hikes

    if you are hell bent on hiking taxes they should be hiked on those who need to pay at least some of their costs as citizens.
    Well if we are talking about ponying up on citizenship points how many sons and daughters of the rich and famous have/had their butts humping through the desert making the world safe for millionaires? Those Americans pay in sweat equity and who benefits the most from their sacrifices? Where's the quid pro quo from the wealthy?










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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Good point man, I don't think many people realize that legally, corporations are considered citizens/people (also a side note .. they get the benefits of being "people", yet not the consequences that a rightful person receives) .. just watched a documentary on this .. very creepy .. can look for it and post it if you like
    It's certainly not everyone that can get away with paying no taxes and jetting around with Obama all the same.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what about the 47% who get all the citizenship benefits of the top 5% yet they pay NO federal income taxes.

    and GE paid plenty of taxes on profits obtained in other nations. they also paid tons of payroll taxes on their domestic workers.
    LOL! :man shoveling steaming heaps of bull****:










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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the source is The Millionaire Next Door, a study of America's millionaires. by Self-Made they mean "did not inherit any portion of their wealth", but are rather first-generation millionaires whose parents were usually middle or lower class.



    about 85%
    Interesting, thank you for posting a reference .. I am now wondering what "did not inherit any portion of their wealth" means, as this could simply mean that the wealth they have accumulated was indeed due to an initial lump of money being available to them - they could be defining it loosely, i.e they started out with a very small percentage of what they have now ... I'll have to see if they clarify that anymore on that site, because having money to work with makes a difference.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the source is The Millionaire Next Door, a study of America's millionaires. by Self-Made they mean "did not inherit any portion of their wealth", but are rather first-generation millionaires whose parents were usually middle or lower class.



    about 85%
    As I mentioned before, I'll have to check into the specifics of those terms .. but I would like to restate that in my opinion, those who hoard money (greedy, wasteful, etc.) and cause suffering in others (via hoarding money that could otherwise be used to serve the greater good) are immoral and our country should not allow such behavior.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Except that cuts in income tax rates lead to less income tax revenue, as per above. Thanks for playing.
    Except when they didnt.......

    Federal Tax Revenue After The Bush Tax Cuts


    Federal Tax Revenue After The Reagan Tax Cuts


    Federal Tax Revenue After The JFK/Johnson Tax Cuts


    Reality and your contentions do not get along........
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the source is The Millionaire Next Door, a study of America's millionaires. by Self-Made they mean "did not inherit any portion of their wealth", but are rather first-generation millionaires whose parents were usually middle or lower class.



    about 85%
    Well I looked at your link to that secrets to success book (not exactly a peer reviewed piece of literature) and as I do not own the book, I'll have to take your word for it (with caution) on the 85% figure. Also, the book appears to be about millionaires and beyond (e.g. millionaires through billionaires?) and that is a much larger population than the top 5%. I really just need more data and definitions .. where did they get their figures from, how did they define their sample, etc. Still, thanks for at least being honest and sharing the link to where you got your information.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what about the 47% who are so poor they cannot pay any federal income taxes.
    Fixed that for ya. For some reason you always forget that important detail. It's not like anyone is getting away with anything. It's just that the federal tax code sees the benefit of not taxing people who are just barely making their rent. What do you propose we do with these folks? Throw them out into the street?
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Fixed that for ya. For some reason you always forget that important detail. It's not like anyone is getting away with anything. It's just that the federal tax code sees the benefit of not taxing people who are just barely making their rent. What do you propose we do with these folks? Throw them out into the street?

    I dunna know are there alligators in the street?

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Except when they didnt........
    You mean when you didn't make a relevent post??

    Dude!! How about showing some increased due to tax increases?? You are so lame for leaving out half the picture!! Let's see the Clinton years!!! Put up our shut up dude!! If you aren't going to post the full picture then what good are you??

    You just don't want to show that Clinton almost doubled the nations income during his time in office.. Did Bush even come close?? Not even!!!

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