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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sometimes they do sometimes they don't and in many cases they can do both depending on the time

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    They raise and lower revenue at the same time? Are you getting dizzy yet....

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Oh I bet there is a rather strong correlation between high earners and high intelligence. Luck has far less to do with it but that erroneous assumption makes it far easier to justify imposing confiscatory taxes on "lucky people" than talented ones.
    Not the investor class, no. They've just learned how to be highly effective parasites. And what's best about it is watching people treat the super wealthy with some kind of ridiculous reverence. The double standard against the poor receiving government aid is astounding, imo.
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    They raise and lower revenue at the same time? Are you getting dizzy yet....
    Speaking of dizzy did you miss the comment about TIME

    a tax hike often leads to short term increases in revenue. then as people engage in tax avoidance or if the taxes deleteriously affect the economy tax revenues can decrease below the level they were before the tax hikes



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Speaking of dizzy did you miss the comment about TIME

    Did you miss what you wrote?

    they can do both
    If you want to clarify go for it.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Not the investor class, no. They've just learned how to be highly effective parasites. And what's best about it is watching people treat the super wealthy with some kind of ridiculous reverence. The double standard against the poor receiving government aid is astounding, imo.

    I love this sort of bitterness and general hatred. SO investors are all parasitic robber barons?

    that really is one of the most stupid comments I have seen. many retirees are investors. when a farmer retires and sells his farm to a developer what does he do? he normally invests the money. what is a 401K plan?



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Did you miss what you wrote?



    If you want to clarify go for it.
    You still miss the time component

    a tax hike can have a short term increase in revenues and in the long run cause the revenues to decrease

    its really a simple concept that has been proven true time and time again.



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I love this sort of bitterness and general hatred. SO investors are all parasitic robber barons?

    that really is one of the most stupid comments I have seen. many retirees are investors. when a farmer retires and sells his farm to a developer what does he do? he normally invests the money. what is a 401K plan?
    You must have missed the super wealthy part. oh well. When you decide to debate properly, let me know.
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    You know this entire debate about whether or not lowering taxes raises revenue is simply absurd!! Do you all not understand math??

    On any given year.. The amount of tax revenue will increase if there is no change in the tax code.. That is just how our economy works.. Look how much they increased during the Clinton years..

    So?? If on an average year?? Revenue increases by say $600 billion.. And we then do a tax cut that costs $320 billion.. The revenue is still going to increase $280 billion.. Get it?? Why is it so hard for you republicans to figure that out?? During the Bush years, revenue increased, but not nearly as much as it would have without the tax cuts.. The economy shrank under Bush and grew under Clinton..

    Now please!! Got take elementary school math.. Basic adding and subracting.. It is really sad seeing you all get your butts kicked by some pretty basic facts..

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    You must have missed the super wealthy part. oh well. When you decide to debate properly, let me know.
    great-so that means who? when your dem masters limit their tax hike schemes to the 400 or so billionaires then maybe your rants will have relevance

    last I checked the dems keep wanting to use 200K as the threshold



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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    I do not care, at all, what percent of my income I pay in taxes. I care what I get for those taxes. And that is what the debate seriously lacks. Taxes are not different from a business transaction. We pay for a service or product. In this case, we're paying for security, infrastructure, law enforcement... and social assistance. We get something for paying for that. We get a stronger, more prosperous country. Small minded people who can't understand economics outside of their own wallets don't realize that empowering every person in this country into a stable and strong financial position improves the whole economy for everyone.
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