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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    I don't want my taxes to go up, but I think it is necessary to get rid of our crushing national debt in a reasonable time frame. Democrats and Republicans both have spent us into a situation where I don't think that budget cuts alone are going to be able to deal with the amount of debt we have.
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Obama is so full of it his eyes are brown.

    I watched him lying his ass off again, and on this one I thought, can anyone really be this this stupid?

    I can't wait to hear how brilliant he is in the eyes of really stupid liberals.

    Even Liberals should be offended on this one.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    How cynical!

    Let people work without stealing their money.



    Then the loopholes must be closed, no need for artificial equality. Progressive taxation is a scam.
    Close the loopholes and continue progressive taxation would be the ideal situation .. I still don't think you are understanding what progressive taxation means ... as evidenced by your "stealing" comment

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Close the loopholes and continue progressive taxation would be the ideal situation .. I still don't think you are understanding what progressive taxation means ... as evidenced by your "stealing" comment
    Perhaps I don't. Taxing one man 20% an taxing another 30% just because s/he has more money, I call that "stealing" from the second one (that 10%). It's not even about money, it's about equality.
    That's imho, of course.
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Perhaps I don't. Taxing one man 20% an taxing another 30% just because s/he has more money, I call that "stealing" from the second one (that 10%). It's not even about money, it's about equality.
    That's imho, of course.
    I think its a good point that you stated that this is only your opinion .. it shows maturity .. everyone has opinions, and it is my opinion that no one person is correct ... when it comes to ethics .. things are subjective .. for example, you call that stealing ... I call looking out for the greater good with the consequence of say .. one person having to settle for 7 as opposed to 8 homes, a very reasonable proposition ... it is my opinion that we have the ability to rise above the instinctual selfish nature of humanity and do these kinds of things ..jmo

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Do I want LESS money? NO

    Do I want those who employ people to have less funds to do so? NO
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    I propose trickle down taxation vs the current trickle up taxation.

    let's see where this goes.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    we cannot cut enough spending, to reduce the debt in a timely fashion, without really hurting tens of millions of Americans, or putting our national security in real jeopardy.

    that's why we need a combo of spending cuts and revenue increases.

    the majority of the American people agree.

    the majority of Republicans, agree.

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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we cannot cut enough spending, to reduce the debt in a timely fashion, without really hurting tens of millions of Americans, or putting our national security in real jeopardy.

    that's why we need a combo of spending cuts and revenue increases.

    the majority of the American people agree.

    the majority of Republicans, agree.
    Sure you we can, you probably would consider the cuts necessary severe though or have a different opinion on the nature of national security.

    No matter what, we cannot tax our way out of this hole. Even if we took all of the wealthiest 2%'s earnings it wouldn't cover the deficit, all things being equal. And as Debt:GDP gets worse, this will become more and more clear to you.
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    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    Re: Do You Want Higher Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Sure you we can, you probably would consider the cuts necessary severe though.

    No matter what, we cannot tax our way out of this hole. Even if we took all of the wealthiest 2%'s earnings it wouldn't cover the deficit, all things being equal. And as Debt:GDP gets worse, this will become more and more clear to you.
    how much spending would we have to cut, to get rid of the entire debt in 15 years?

    please consider normal rates of increase for those programs you do not want to cut.

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