View Poll Results: Would this be an acceptable compromise to you?

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Thread: How's this for a compromise?

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    Re: How's this for a compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    And if we close loopholes, we would probably do that...
    the biggest loophole is getting full federal citizenship benefits including voting and not paying any net federal income taxes



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    Re: How's this for a compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as time goes on those who have money to invest are always going to increase their wealth

    what you fail to account for is that top group is not the same people year in year out
    yes, i think it pretty much is. do you have some stats to back that up?

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    Re: How's this for a compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    yes, i think it pretty much is. do you have some stats to back that up?
    ever read the "millionaire next door"?



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    Re: How's this for a compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    one third of 1 percent. big deal. and a total of 1% total is hardly "gouging the wealthy".....please. i know there won't be a painless fix, it could get very ugly. the poor and middle class will undoubtedly suffer the ugliness FAR MORE than the wealthy will. it's their programs that will cut.....after all. no tax increase combined with spending cuts means exactly that.....the wealthy are unaffected and the poor and middle class are heavily affected. that's hardly sharing the pain.

    do you really want to know what this country would be like without a middle class?
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    Re: How's this for a compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Here's the thing. EVERYONE wants a balanced budget. The issue is not whether or not to cut spending. It's WHAT to cut. Democrats want to cut things like military spending, and tax spending to increase the wealth of the upper class. Republicans want to cut things like social security, education, and aid programs. That's where the conflict arises.
    Indeed, which both sides need to get it through their head to cut first and then hash it out and hopefully with both sides working on it we get something sensiable which is cuts across the board including to the military and entitlements. Indeed, Military and Entitlements, dollar amount wise, should be having the biggest cuts from them.

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    Re: How's this for a compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Are you suggesting that every rate is increased like 2% across the board or something? Or are you playing Class Warfare, no different than the Democrats, when you are suggesting we should increase it only on the bottom of the bracket where it only significantly affects the lower classes. That is no different than what they're doing by saying we should increase it only at the top.
    The big difference being, of course, that the top brackets have a lot more money to spare, whereas the lowest brackets can barely afford their rent. %'s of income are a way of obscuring the real issue. The real issue is wealth, and the possession of it. Some people barely have enough to live, and their income does not allow for any extravagances or emergencies. Others have far more than enough to live, and tons leftover for extravagances and more than enough for any conceivable emergency. The point is, take from the funding for extravagances first, and hopefully never need to take from emergency funds or basic living expenses. %'s just confuse the issue. Some people have a lot of money to spare. Some people have none. Take from those who do so that no one will suffer and die.

    Some of course, would prefer that others die than give up their extravagances.
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    Re: How's this for a compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Indeed, which both sides need to get it through their head to cut first and then hash it out and hopefully with both sides working on it we get something sensiable which is cuts across the board including to the military and entitlements. Indeed, Military and Entitlements, dollar amount wise, should be having the biggest cuts from them.
    It would also be nice if we could spend some money on infrastructure and education and maybe bring up the GDP, so we'd have more money to work with.
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    Re: How's this for a compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The big difference being, of course, that the top brackets have a lot more money to spare, whereas the lowest brackets can barely afford their rent. %'s of income are a way of obscuring the real issue. The real issue is wealth, and the possession of it. Some people barely have enough to live, and their income does not allow for any extravagances or emergencies. Others have far more than enough to live, and tons leftover for extravagances and more than enough for any conceivable emergency. The point is, take from the funding for extravagances first, and hopefully never need to take from emergency funds or basic living expenses. %'s just confuse the issue. Some people have a lot of money to spare. Some people have none. Take from those who do so that no one will suffer and die.

    Some of course, would prefer that others die than give up their extravagances.

    why should those who pay most of the federal taxes pay even more? its not their fault many people are "poor"

    The tax the rich crowd operates on one or two assumptions

    1) taxes should be based on ability to pay rather than what you receive in value

    2) those who are rich were somehow given something by the government or the poor and thus should be forced to pay extra



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    Re: How's this for a compromise?

    I am hurt. Zyphlin responded to every one but me. He is a meany.
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    Re: How's this for a compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All this proposal does is eliminates an entitlement and creates yet another welfare program while punishing others. You want "the wealthy" to take an income tax rate hike, cut them out of receiving Social Security and make them pay for those who do receive Social Security. You generosity is simply overwhelming.
    If I had money such as Bill Gates? I would happily give my bennies up for those that need em more. It just seems like the right thing to do
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