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  • Pay interest on the bonds etc. cuts elsewhere; preserve US credit.

    8 29.63%
  • Pay things like SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.; preserve people.

    5 18.52%
  • Even % cuts across the board.

    4 14.81%
  • Pay everything he thinks needs to be paid regardless of the debt ceiling.

    6 22.22%
  • Ask all that voted against raising the debt ceiling to tell him what to not pay.

    0 0%
  • Ask congress to pass a law that directs him on what to pay.

    4 14.81%
  • Do nothing; wait for congress to do something when things are more obvious.

    0 0%
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    What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    Some of these options might end up being contested if he does it, if so assume that happens. He lets the various interpretations of various portions of the constitution be settled in the Supreme Court if necessary.
    (I need to decide if Iím going to take our money out of the market and put it in gold.)

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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    # Pay interest on the bonds etc. cuts elsewhere; preserve US credit.
    # Pay things like SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.; preserve people.
    # Even % cuts across the board.
    # Pay everything he thinks needs to be paid regardless of the debt ceiling.
    # Ask all that voted against raising the debt ceiling to tell him what to not pay.
    # Ask congress to pass a law that directs him on what to pay.
    # Do nothing; wait for congress to do something when things are more obvious.
    I would suggest the following approach:

    He eliminates all funding for any programs that he personally dislikes and/or that the Republicans are fond of. This will light a fire under their ass to raise the debt ceiling. Of course, this alone won't be anywhere close to sufficient to close the funding gap, so he simply ignores the debt ceiling and directs the Treasury to continue borrowing money to pay for everything else. There are contradictory laws on the books (one directing him not to borrow money and one directing him to spend various amounts on various agencies/entitlements), so it's impossible for him to obey all of them.

    He lets the various interpretations of various portions of the constitution be settled in the Supreme Court if necessary.
    If we're taking that approach and assuming that he respects the debt ceiling...we'd need to get to a temporary 43% cut in spending. I would suggest that all non-essential government agencies close (that's about 20% of spending), all troops are garrisoned at their base until further notice and soldiers/contractors stop getting paid (another 15% of spending), and social security checks are reduced by 1/3 with IOUs to cover the remaining balance (another 8% or so). If this solution sounds draconian and unfair, it absolutely is. Which is why Congress should raise the debt ceiling, and raise it immediately.
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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    resign and let an adult take over
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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I would suggest the following approach:

    He eliminates all funding for any programs that he personally dislikes and/or that the Republicans are fond of. This will light a fire under their ass to raise the debt ceiling. Of course, this alone won't be anywhere close to sufficient to close the funding gap, so he simply ignores the debt ceiling and directs the Treasury to continue borrowing money to pay for everything else. There are contradictory laws on the books (one directing him not to borrow money and one directing him to spend various amounts on various agencies/entitlements), so it's impossible for him to obey all of them.
    Think that will get him reelected in 2012?
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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Think that will get him reelected in 2012?
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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I would suggest the following approach:

    He eliminates all funding for any programs that he personally dislikes and/or that the Republicans are fond of. This will light a fire under their ass to raise the debt ceiling. Of course, this alone won't be anywhere close to sufficient to close the funding gap, so he simply ignores the debt ceiling and directs the Treasury to continue borrowing money to pay for everything else. There are contradictory laws on the books (one directing him not to borrow money and one directing him to spend various amounts on various agencies/entitlements), so it's impossible for him to obey all of them.


    If we're taking that approach and assuming that he respects the debt ceiling...we'd need to get to a temporary 43% cut in spending. I would suggest that all non-essential government agencies close (that's about 20% of spending), all troops are garrisoned at their base until further notice and soldiers/contractors stop getting paid (another 15% of spending), and social security checks are reduced by 1/3 with IOUs to cover the remaining balance (another 8% or so). If this solution sounds draconian and unfair, it absolutely is. Which is why Congress should raise the debt ceiling, and raise it immediately.
    Your suggestion is in short #4 Pay everything he thinks needs to be paid regardless of the debt ceiling. But you didn't vote?

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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    I am reasonably sure the Constitution require he pay all debts, and thats it. I think he should work with congress and cut spending till the debt ceiling is no longer a threat. cut every thing, military budgets, SSDI, SS, Medicare and Medicaid, Department of Social Services, Welfare, EBt, Education, Transportation, DOD, DOJ, etc. till they reach a budget that they can work with and will not raise the debt any further in fact start immediately reducing the Debt to Zero. Foreign aid should be the first to go. Humanitarian aid and the works.
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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    I think he should pay interest on debt as 1st priority, SS as second priority and cut elsewhere... preferably all foreign aid, free government welfare , and any other creative ways you can cut the spending.

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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Your suggestion is in short #4 Pay everything he thinks needs to be paid regardless of the debt ceiling. But you didn't vote?
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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    I see from a few posts that some are essentially suggesting that he change parties and become a Republican. An option I didn't think of. But he has had so much counseling on that and hasn't done it yet, so I don't think it's a possibility. So, pick one for Obama.

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