View Poll Results: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

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  • Pay interest on the bonds etc. cuts elsewhere; preserve US credit.

    8 29.63%
  • Pay things like SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.; preserve people.

    5 18.52%
  • Even % cuts across the board.

    4 14.81%
  • Pay everything he thinks needs to be paid regardless of the debt ceiling.

    6 22.22%
  • Ask all that voted against raising the debt ceiling to tell him what to not pay.

    0 0%
  • Ask congress to pass a law that directs him on what to pay.

    4 14.81%
  • Do nothing; wait for congress to do something when things are more obvious.

    0 0%
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Thread: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigkat80 View Post
    "Oh then I see", your a global alarmist, beleiving in all the junk science that has become the Anthropogenic Global warming scam led by Al Gore, Now I see why your having such issues with comparing apples to peanuts.....That explains alot. .
    Wow. You jump to conclusions without thinking about what was written. You apparently need to classify people so things are simpler for you. What you missed is that I was identifying myself as a junk scientist that had his data ‘evaluated’. (Note that I wrote that the Koch Brothers honestly verified the data and reported it, good for them.)

    I have several examples. I will briefly describe one. I was working with a product we just started shipping looking at a completely different matter. I observed an intermittent failure mode in the product. Since the product wasn't designed in my group and it was shipping I used a hand written note to management to explain the problem. I suggested that they make and implement a quick simple correction now and wait to see if we get reports from the field of failures. No field failures had been identified yet. I was called essentially an alarmist, a junk engineer. No correction was done. Several months later the field failures were happening enough to result in a big problem. Since I had identified the problem months before and I was never involved in the responsible group I didn't hear about the resolution for several weeks. The claimed source of the problem was that that group copied a design from my group and that I was the source of the problem. It wasn't copied, but they needed a scapegoat. But, by your logic, I was a junk engineer until we had field failures, not just in the lab.

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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    You wrote “Their donations are not political in that arena they are business men… Any good business man would use some assets to protect larger assets.” And in earlier posts you were arguing the opposite. Now you list the motivation that I agree with, protect assets. Now we agree, using the Koch Brothers as an example, almost everything government leadership does can affect their business, so the Koch Brothers use their leadership capability. They even have separate organizations to do leading, the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation is an example.
    Stretch Much? this is not even close to interpreting my statement, as noted the Koch brothers are in the buisness of making money, Sorros is in the buisness of One world Order building...Apples to peanuts.
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    Re: What should Obama do if debt ceiling is not raised?

    You my friend are the one that brought up global warming. I do not beleive in Global warming in any sense of the word Anthropogenic. What we are expieriencing is Cyclitic only. Regardless of what your example tries to imply, no evidence of Global warming(field Failures) will ever show up until it starts to trend back to global cooling.
    The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. Patrick Henry

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