• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?


  • Total voters
    33

Badmutha

Banned
Joined
Jan 27, 2011
Messages
1,951
Reaction score
395
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
According to Obama-Pelosi-Reid and just about every Democrat in Washington to the liberal commoners here at DP.......Republicans should just agree to Tax Increases.......and commit political suicide.

Coming just a little over 8 months since Nov. 2,2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History........if you were an elected Republican in Washington.....would you agree to raise taxes and commit political suicide?

I don't know any Republican or Tea Party member that was elected to go to Washington for the purpose of helping The Kenyan Tyrant and Democrats continue their evil ways........

........they were elected to stop The Kenyan Tyrant and the Democrat's hair brain agenda.......they were elected to cut spending.......they were elected to stop an ever growing ever expanding Liberal Nanny State Government. Not one of them promised to go to Washington and Raise Taxes........and if they do.....chances are they wont be going back come 2012.


.
.
.
 
I voted no. Whether or not it is political suicide I have no idea.
 
According to Obama-Pelosi-Reid and just about every Democrat in Washington to the liberal commoners here at DP.......Republicans should just agree to Tax Increases.......and commit political suicide.

Coming just a little over 8 months since Nov. 2,2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History........if you were an elected Republican in Washington.....would you agree to raise taxes and commit political suicide?

I don't know any Republican or Tea Party member that was elected to go to Washington for the purpose of helping The Kenyan Tyrant and Democrats continue their evil ways........

........they were elected to stop The Kenyan Tyrant and the Democrat's hair brain agenda.......they were elected to cut spending.......they were elected to stop an ever growing ever expanding Liberal Nanny State Government. Not one of them promised to go to Washington and Raise Taxes........and if they do.....chances are they wont be going back come 2012.


.
.
.

The Republicans look bad either way, which is one reason why Obama is pressing his advantage; if they give in, they look bad to their base, if they don't give in, they look bad to independents.

In the end they'll 'probably' give in, as independents are more valuable than the base.
 
Last edited:
The Republicans look bad either way, which is one reason why Obama is pressing his advantage; if they give in, they look bad to their base, if they don't give in, they look bad to independents.

In the end they'll 'probably' give in, as independents are more valuable than the base.

Do you know of an Independent that favors Tax Increases in this economy?

......hell it wasnt long ago most Democrats were against raising taxes..........including our man-child president..........


.
.
.
.
 
According to Obama-Pelosi-Reid and just about every Democrat in Washington to the liberal commoners here at DP.......Republicans should just agree to Tax Increases.......and commit political suicide.

And don't forget reasonable conservatives and Republicans. Its alright, I understand if you don't know what I'm talking about, you probably don't associate with the likes of *shudders* reasonable people.

Coming just a little over 8 months since Nov. 2,2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History........if you were an elected Republican in Washington.....would you agree to raise taxes and commit political suicide?

I'm curious, do you actually believe the things you say? Because if you do....wow...

I don't know any Republican or Tea Party member that was elected to go to Washington for the purpose of helping The Kenyan Tyrant and Democrats continue their evil ways........

Haven't you heard? Obama isn't Kenyan. He is an alien from Mars, who is here to spread propaganda, weaken the military, and generally destroy the country.

........they were elected to stop The Kenyan Tyrant and the Democrat's hair brain agenda.......they were elected to cut spending.......they were elected to stop an ever growing ever expanding Liberal Nanny State Government. Not one of them promised to go to Washington and Raise Taxes........and if they do.....chances are they wont be going back come 2012.

Have you ever been in the real world? Your silly little political absolutes have no place in them, and if you insist they do, too bad.
 
Is that like a professional wrestler's name or something?

No its the guy who never ran so much as a lemonade stand.........who for the first time since 1775........defied THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.........and shoved his bull**** agenda down the throats of the American People.....who you elected.
.
.
.
 
In all seriousness, I'd like the GOP a lot more if they would put their beliefs aside, and voted to raise taxes. At the same time, I would hope they demand as many cuts as possible. This isn't a one-way solution, you have to stop spending, increase the efficiency of tax-collection, and increase taxes.
 
No its the guy who never ran so much as a lemonade stand.........who for the first time since 1775........defied THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.........and shoved his bull**** agenda down the throats of the American People.....who you elected.

:shock:

Viva la Revolucion! :shoot

Go get them tiger.
 
Maybe this guy can help.........


.
.
.
.

Senators and congressmen can turn on their campaign promises more easily than a president can. This is due to short attention span or short term memory of voters. This is how McCain can be one of the biggest RINOs in office but yet keep getting elected.
 
They must do what's right by the Republic and for the People. We may have to raise some taxes and pay for the crap we bought to improve our overall lot.
 
Do you know of an Independent that favors Tax Increases in this economy?

......hell it wasnt long ago most Democrats were against raising taxes..........including our man-child president..........


.
.
.
.


I can't watch videos from my current location.

In principle, no, the average American doesn't like any sort of tax increase; but factor in decades of deficits, an unwillingness to cut services, and a heightening negativity toward corporations (which are generally connected with the wealthy in the public consciousness), a majority of Americans are convinced raising income taxes on higher-income brackets is the better political choice right now.
 
Last edited:
They must do what's right by the Republic and for the People. We may have to raise some taxes and pay for the crap we bought to improve our overall lot.

I agree 100%. But that's a very un-libertarian idea.
 
In all seriousness, I'd like the GOP a lot more if they would put their beliefs aside, and voted to raise taxes.

So you would like Republicans a lot more if they just abandoned their conservative principles and became tax and spend happy Democrats.........

.......who would of thought.......

At the same time, I would hope they demand as many cuts as possible. This isn't a one-way solution, you have to stop spending, increase the efficiency of tax-collection, and increase taxes.

At the same time, you continue to vote for the Democrat party........

.......a party unable to cut even a Cowboy Poetry Contest......a party that hasnt released a budget in over 800 days........a party that has never made a significant spending cut in US History........a party that exists to invent new ways of spending our money........a party that will surely bankrupt this country if they continue to be empowered.
.
.
.
.
.
 
They must do what's right by the Republic and for the People. We may have to raise some taxes and pay for the crap we bought to improve our overall lot.

Raise taxes in this economy.......and you will make this recession great........
.
.
.
.
 
No its the guy who never ran so much as a lemonade stand.........who for the first time since 1775........defied THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.........and shoved his bull**** agenda down the throats of the American People.....who you elected.
.
.
.

Doesn't the fact that he won the election mean that he has a mandate, and thus did not defy the will of the people, since the majority of people voted for him? I mean, which is it? Did he bring out the sheep-minded liberals out in droves to elect him, or is he acting without mandate? You can't have it both ways.

They must do what's right by the Republic and for the People. We may have to raise some taxes and pay for the crap we bought to improve our overall lot.

Spot on. What's good for the country should ALWAYS trump personal political gain. Sadly, the opposite is what actually happens.
 
No its the guy who never ran so much as a lemonade stand.........who for the first time since 1775........defied THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.........and shoved his bull**** agenda down the throats of the American People.....who you elected.
.
.
.
Why is someone who can't run a lemonade stand a Kenyan? The people want a lemonade stand? I make mine fresh.
 
Doesn't the fact that he won the election mean that he has a mandate, and thus did not defy the will of the people, since the majority of people voted for him? I mean, which is it? Did he bring out the sheep-minded liberals out in droves to elect him, or is he acting without mandate? You can't have it both ways.

The gumdrops and lollipops he promised are much different than the excrement sandwhiches he delivered........

.......wouldnt you agree?

Spot on. What's good for the country should ALWAYS trump personal political gain. Sadly, the opposite is what actually happens.

Rasing taxes in this economy isnt good for the economy.....it isnt good for the country.....it isnt good for We The People.......

........but its good for a bloated out of control liberal nanny state government........
.
.
.
.
 
The gumdrops and lollipops he promised are much different than the excrement sandwhiches he delivered........

.......wouldnt you agree?



Rasing taxes in this economy isnt good for the economy.....it isnt good for the country.....it isnt good for We The People.......

........but its good for a bloated out of control liberal nanny state government........
.
.
.
.

Regardless, between supporting people from falling into homelessness and providing jobs, there has to be a limit to the number of cuts we make before the adverse affects of shrinking the "nanny state" begin to outweigh the gains; and if we are to be serious about tackling the deficit, we need to compensate for that limit with tax increases on higher income brackets.

That sort of eclectic policy is the only way to get serious about our country's problems.
 
Last edited:
According to Obama-Pelosi-Reid and just about every Democrat in Washington to the liberal commoners here at DP.......Republicans should just agree to Tax Increases.......and commit political suicide.

Coming just a little over 8 months since Nov. 2,2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History........if you were an elected Republican in Washington.....would you agree to raise taxes and commit political suicide?

I don't know any Republican or Tea Party member that was elected to go to Washington for the purpose of helping The Kenyan Tyrant and Democrats continue their evil ways........

........they were elected to stop The Kenyan Tyrant and the Democrat's hair brain agenda.......they were elected to cut spending.......they were elected to stop an ever growing ever expanding Liberal Nanny State Government. Not one of them promised to go to Washington and Raise Taxes........and if they do.....chances are they wont be going back come 2012.


.
.
.

Theyve already committed suicide...it just hasnt dawned on them yet
 
Regardless, between supporting people from falling into homelessness and providing jobs, there has to be a limit to the number of cuts we make before the adverse affects of shrinking the "nanny state" begin to outweigh the gains;

But to believe that......one would have to believe its Government....specifically The Democrat Provided Social Teet..... that stops people from falling into homelessness, unemployment, or poverty.......

.....and I would say its just the opposite........


The Poorest American Cities of 2008 (1-30)

1. Detroit, 33.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 52 years
2. Cleveland, 30.5% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 20 years
3. Buffalo, 30.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 43 years
4. Newark, 26.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 102 years
5. Miami, 25.6% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 52 years
6. Fresno, 25.5% in poverty--Republican Mayor for the last 13 years
7. Cincinnati, 25.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 29 years
8. Toledo, 24.7% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 20 years
9. El Paso, 24.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 120 years
10.Philadelphia, 24.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 57 years
11. Milwaukee, 23.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 49 years
12. Memphis, 23.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 133 years
13. St. Louis, 22.9% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 60 years
14. Dallas, 22.6% in poverty--Republican Mayor for the last 2 years
14 New Orleans,22.6% in poverty-Democrat Mayor for the last 141 years
16. Atlanta, 22.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 130 years
17. Stockton, Calif., 21.6% in poverty--No info available--probably Libs
18. Minneapolis, 21.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 35 years
19. Pittsburgh, 21.2% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 21 years
20. Tucson, 20.9% in poverty--No info available--probably Libs
21. Chicago, 20.6% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 78 years
22. Columbus,Ohio 20.1% in poverty-Democrat Mayor for the last 9 years
23. Long Beach, Calif., 19.8% in poverty--No info available--probably Libs
24. Houston, 19.5% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 88 years
25 Los Angeles,19.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for "the last 8 years"
26. Baltimore, 19.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 42 years
27 San Antonio,19.2% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 38 years
28. Phoenix, 18.9% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 5 years
29. Boston, 18.7% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 79 years
30. Denver, 18.4% in poverty----Democrat Mayor for the last 46 years


and if we are to be serious about tackling the deficit, we need to compensate for that limit with tax increases on higher income brackets.

That sort of eclectic policy is the only way to get serious about our country's problems.

What if I told you we could lower the tax rate and collect more revenues?

Federal Tax Revenue After The Bush Tax Cuts
usgs_linephptitleTotalDirectRevenueyear2003_2007snameUSunitsbbar0stack1sizemcolcspending0178231_188011_215361_240687_2567.png


Federal Tax Revenue After The Reagan Tax Cuts
usgs_linephptitleTotalDirectRevenueyear1982_1988snameUSunitsbbar0stack1sizemcolcspending061777_60056_66644_73404_76916_85429_909.png


Federal Tax Revenue After The JFK/Johnson Tax Cuts
usgs_linephptitleTotalDirectRevenueyear1964_1970snameUSunitsbbar0stack1sizemcolcspending011261_11682_13084_14882_15297_18688_192.png


....you want to lower the deficit.......especially in this economy.........cut spending.......and then cut taxes.
.
.
.
.
 
Back
Top Bottom