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    Re: Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Doesn't the fact that he won the election mean that he has a mandate, and thus did not defy the will of the people, since the majority of people voted for him? I mean, which is it? Did he bring out the sheep-minded liberals out in droves to elect him, or is he acting without mandate? You can't have it both ways.
    The gumdrops and lollipops he promised are much different than the excrement sandwhiches he delivered........

    .......wouldnt you agree?

    Spot on. What's good for the country should ALWAYS trump personal political gain. Sadly, the opposite is what actually happens.
    Rasing taxes in this economy isnt good for the economy.....it isnt good for the country.....it isnt good for We The People.......

    ........but its good for a bloated out of control liberal nanny state government........
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    Re: Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Raise taxes in this economy.......and you will make this recession great........
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    Re: Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    The gumdrops and lollipops he promised are much different than the excrement sandwhiches he delivered........

    .......wouldnt you agree?



    Rasing taxes in this economy isnt good for the economy.....it isnt good for the country.....it isnt good for We The People.......

    ........but its good for a bloated out of control liberal nanny state government........
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    Regardless, between supporting people from falling into homelessness and providing jobs, there has to be a limit to the number of cuts we make before the adverse affects of shrinking the "nanny state" begin to outweigh the gains; and if we are to be serious about tackling the deficit, we need to compensate for that limit with tax increases on higher income brackets.

    That sort of eclectic policy is the only way to get serious about our country's problems.
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    Re: Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    According to Obama-Pelosi-Reid and just about every Democrat in Washington to the liberal commoners here at DP.......Republicans should just agree to Tax Increases.......and commit political suicide.

    Coming just a little over 8 months since Nov. 2,2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History........if you were an elected Republican in Washington.....would you agree to raise taxes and commit political suicide?

    I don't know any Republican or Tea Party member that was elected to go to Washington for the purpose of helping The Kenyan Tyrant and Democrats continue their evil ways........

    ........they were elected to stop The Kenyan Tyrant and the Democrat's hair brain agenda.......they were elected to cut spending.......they were elected to stop an ever growing ever expanding Liberal Nanny State Government. Not one of them promised to go to Washington and Raise Taxes........and if they do.....chances are they wont be going back come 2012.


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    Theyve already committed suicide...it just hasnt dawned on them yet

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    Re: Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Regardless, between supporting people from falling into homelessness and providing jobs, there has to be a limit to the number of cuts we make before the adverse affects of shrinking the "nanny state" begin to outweigh the gains;
    But to believe that......one would have to believe its Government....specifically The Democrat Provided Social Teet..... that stops people from falling into homelessness, unemployment, or poverty.......

    .....and I would say its just the opposite........


    The Poorest American Cities of 2008 (1-30)

    1. Detroit, 33.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 52 years
    2. Cleveland, 30.5% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 20 years
    3. Buffalo, 30.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 43 years
    4. Newark, 26.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 102 years
    5. Miami, 25.6% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 52 years
    6. Fresno, 25.5% in poverty--Republican Mayor for the last 13 years
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    8. Toledo, 24.7% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 20 years
    9. El Paso, 24.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 120 years
    10.Philadelphia, 24.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 57 years
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    13. St. Louis, 22.9% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 60 years
    14. Dallas, 22.6% in poverty--Republican Mayor for the last 2 years
    14 New Orleans,22.6% in poverty-Democrat Mayor for the last 141 years
    16. Atlanta, 22.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 130 years
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    21. Chicago, 20.6% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 78 years
    22. Columbus,Ohio 20.1% in poverty-Democrat Mayor for the last 9 years
    23. Long Beach, Calif., 19.8% in poverty--No info available--probably Libs
    24. Houston, 19.5% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 88 years
    25 Los Angeles,19.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for "the last 8 years"
    26. Baltimore, 19.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 42 years
    27 San Antonio,19.2% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 38 years
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    and if we are to be serious about tackling the deficit, we need to compensate for that limit with tax increases on higher income brackets.

    That sort of eclectic policy is the only way to get serious about our country's problems.
    What if I told you we could lower the tax rate and collect more revenues?

    Federal Tax Revenue After The Bush Tax Cuts


    Federal Tax Revenue After The Reagan Tax Cuts


    Federal Tax Revenue After The JFK/Johnson Tax Cuts


    ....you want to lower the deficit.......especially in this economy.........cut spending.......and then cut taxes.
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    Re: Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Theyve already committed suicide...it just hasnt dawned on them yet
    I agree. I'd say its because, among other things, they aren't willing to vote to raise taxes. They're being a**holes, and are screwing the country for political gain, and its pretty obvious. In the meanwhile, the Dem's aren't doing anything to help, because they pussy-foot everything they do.
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    Re: Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I agree 100%. But that's a very un-libertarian idea.
    I don't see how it's "unlibertarian". We should have controlled the government better prior to this point; but we didn't. This is the natural course of unrestricted government. But there's no such thing as a free lunch and eventually we have to pay for our mistakes. There is going to need to be massive downsizing of government spending; but we may need additional taxes since we allowed government to operate in unrestricted mode for too long. It's called taking responsibility and it's not out of line with libertarian idealism.
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    Re: Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    ....you want to lower the deficit.......especially in this economy.........cut spending.......and then cut taxes.
    Why can't you do both at the same time??? There isn't a legitimate reason not to.
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    Re: Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't see how it's "unlibertarian". We should have controlled the government better prior to this point; but we didn't. This is the natural course of unrestricted government. But there's no such thing as a free lunch and eventually we have to pay for our mistakes. There is going to need to be massive downsizing of government spending; but we may need additional taxes since we allowed government to operate in unrestricted mode for too long. It's called taking responsibility and it's not out of line with libertarian idealism.
    I see what you're saying, but it still is harming the individual for the the gain of the society. Isn't that against libertarian ideals?
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    Re: Should Republicans agree to Tax Increases.....and commit political suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I see what you're saying, but it still is harming the individual for the the gain of the society. Isn't that against libertarian ideals?
    It's a form of coersion which I'd rather do without. But there are realities of the system which must be taken into account. The government was created to serve The People, but they are beholden instead to a small elite. It's our fault as we didn't control it; but there are consequences for our inaction towards the concerns and movements of government. We have to pay for it. Ideally, the government never gets to this point because we watch and constrain it well enough that it operates properly and by the rights and liberties of the individual.

    But we all must bear the consequences of our actions, and if we don't like the consequences then we have to change our actions. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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