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    Re: Do You Favor Gambling Expansion to Help Answer Financial Problems?

    Took a class on the effects of legalized gambling a few years back, and as it turns out legalized gambling doesn't help govermental financial woes. Unless you're Vegas legalized gambling brings in minimal tourist dollars, and the tax revenue you do see is almost entirely cannibalized from other local source. I generally support gambling expansion, but don't think it's going to fix your budget.

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    Re: Do You Favor Gambling Expansion to Help Answer Financial Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It sounds like a good idea until you have loved ones that are addicted to gambling and those loved ones have kids and bills to take care of. It amounts to purposely getting everyone addicted to a drug so you rake in tax revenue.
    what happened to personal responsibility?

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    Re: Do You Favor Gambling Expansion to Help Answer Financial Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It sounds like a good idea until you have loved ones that are addicted to gambling and those loved ones have kids and bills to take care of. It amounts to purposely getting everyone addicted to a drug so you rake in tax revenue.
    Nobody is forcing you to gamble, so it's essentially an optional tax just like sales.
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    Re: Do You Favor Gambling Expansion to Help Answer Financial Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    GAMBLING IS WRONG-----Unless the Democrat Party gets a piece of the action..........

    Just like DRUG USE IS WRONG.......unitl the Liberal Nanny State saw potential revenues from taxing the hell out of it
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    I'm not sure what type of rage virus you have, but aside from your wild accusation that this is a Liberal initiative, I wouldn't understand for one second how making Casino's helps people climb out of debt. The only ones who do are probably the thousand or so workers they hire at the expense of thousands more who come and lose their money regularly.

    But, let the free market soar, right?

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    Re: Do You Favor Gambling Expansion to Help Answer Financial Problems?

    Gambling I am ok with, however the way that it has been handled is borderline corrupt in my opinion. States will staunchly refuse to allow gambling in many parts of the country until the state needs revenue then suddenly gambling is acceptable and promoted. It just shows that our governments are willing to flop their opinions all for the american $.

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    Re: Do You Favor Gambling Expansion to Help Answer Financial Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    Being from Illinois there is currently a bill that would greatly expand gambling and is supposed to help pay for the debt that my great ol' state has racked up. It seems like a good idea on pen and paper, but then again Nevada isn't doing so hot either.

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    The reason why Nevada isn't doing so well is because the tourism industry is pretty much all Nevada has going for it concerning it's economy. Their tourist industry is composed of gambling, legalized prostitution, and easy marriages and divorces. When other people have no expendable income, the tourism industry goes down.

    So gambling is only bad for the states if they use it as a cornerstone for their economy. This is why Nevada isn't doing so well. However, Illinois has other important parts of their state economy - agriculture, manufacturing, services, energy, not to mention the fact that Chicago is a major urban area that corporations set up there just because so many others are headquartered there too.

    So Illinois may do well to legalize gambling to help bolster the economy and pay off their debt.

    Personally, I think gambling should be legalized in more areas.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Do You Favor Gambling Expansion to Help Answer Financial Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what happened to personal responsibility?
    I am all for personal responsibility. However at the same time I am not for states basically turning people into addicts so they can rake in tax revenue from the addiction. I do not oppose all forms of legalizes gambling, I do support bingo. While it can be addictive like slots or black jack it requires the individual to spend a certain amount of time at it and the individual is limited by the cash they can spend on it because there is only so many cards an individual can handle at ounce.
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    Re: Do You Favor Gambling Expansion to Help Answer Financial Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It sounds like a good idea until you have loved ones that are addicted to gambling and those loved ones have kids and bills to take care of. It amounts to purposely getting everyone addicted to a drug so you rake in tax revenue.
    Even if gambling were legalized around where I live I wouldn't go to gamble. It's up to the choice of the individual to determine whether they want to gamble or not. And not everybody who gambles is a gambling addict.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Do You Favor Gambling Expansion to Help Answer Financial Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    The reason why Nevada isn't doing so well is because the tourism industry is pretty much all Nevada has going for it concerning it's economy. Their tourist industry is composed of gambling, legalized prostitution, and easy marriages and divorces. When other people have no expendable income, the tourism industry goes down.

    So gambling is only bad for the states if they use it as a cornerstone for their economy. This is why Nevada isn't doing so well.
    The fact many states have legalized gambling probably also has to do with the fact Nevada is not raking in the cash like they used to from gambling revenue.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Do You Favor Gambling Expansion to Help Answer Financial Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am all for personal responsibility. However at the same time I am not for states basically turning people into addicts so they can rake in tax revenue from the addiction. I do not oppose all forms of legalizes gambling, I do support bingo. While it can be addictive like slots or black jack it requires the individual to spend a certain amount of time at it and the individual is limited by the cash they can spend on it because there is only so many cards an individual can handle at ounce.
    Personally I believe all this is irrelevant because there's no evidence to suggest that allowing such a measure would substantially impact states' budgetary situations. That's just my humble opinion, correct me if I'm wrong.
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