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    In general, do you think people choose their political orientation based on emotional needs?

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    Re: political orientation and emotional needs

    I think that a decent amount of today's society choose based on how they were raised, where they were raised, and their parents political and personal beliefs. But there are soo many other reasons that people choose what they do.
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    Re: political orientation and emotional needs

    I think it helps along many of our beliefs and that is not entirely shameful. In fact, in many ways it is as it should be. That said, we should not be slaves to our emotions.
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    Re: political orientation and emotional needs

    I would say that there is a powerful element of it in there; though I think it is more strongly indicative of lefter-leaning, with the heavy emphasis on the won't somebody think of the chilllldrun motif.

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    Re: political orientation and emotional needs

    I think many people want to ignore the scientific side of economics that would detail more pain than they desire so they endorse economic models and the political philosophies that endorse those models that only focus on aspirations.
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    Re: political orientation and emotional needs

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would say that there is a powerful element of it in there; though I think it is more strongly indicative of lefter-leaning, with the heavy emphasis on the won't somebody think of the chilllldrun motif.
    Yeah that is some of it, but the political right does it as well, it is just with their perspective of issues. The moral life, the one that upholds the traditions of our society (not just because it works, but because it is good)-these are some of the things the political right can rely upon for the establishment of a political identity that is both just and true.
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    Re: political orientation and emotional needs

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    In general, do you think people choose their political orientation based on emotional needs?
    I would say it's a mix of logic and emotion.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: political orientation and emotional needs

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Yeah that is some of it, but the political right does it as well, it is just with their perspective of issues. The moral life, the one that upholds the traditions of our society (not just because it works, but because it is good)-these are some of the things the political right can rely upon for the establishment of a political identity that is both just and true.
    Fiddy has it right. While Cpwill immediately assumed that emotional needs implied a crippled mind, the fact is that the need is as good as its adaption to the situation. A need to feel in control of a situation, expressed through gun ownership is very good in the context of having your house robbed, for example.

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    Re: political orientation and emotional needs

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would say that there is a powerful element of it in there; though I think it is more strongly indicative of lefter-leaning, with the heavy emphasis on the won't somebody think of the chilllldrun motif.
    The left isn't alone in having emotion be a part of the ideology. A lot of right-wing beliefs are based upon populist anger (for instance, attitudes towards illegal immigrants, Muslims, other xenophobic attitudes in general) and what Fiddy mentioned about traditional lifestyles.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: political orientation and emotional needs

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I would say it's a mix of logic and emotion.
    I still think people aren't concerned with the actual working of reality and aren't taking the effort to actual deal in that realm. Thinking that people are merely a clay they shape whichever way they choose even if history and the science behind it says something clearly different. Even still they continue to walk in ignorance towards whatever their heart tells them, like a child and a candy bar. Except this candy bar has been proven to be poison over and over again and was known to be poison even before anyone took a bit by the people that actually studied the chocolate on the candy bar for generations.

    From what I seen the logic you speak of is based only the emotion of the argument and not the actual science of what the chocolate on the candy bar is made up of.

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