indigo
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yes. there are thousands of homes left to repossess, taxes to raise, abortions to perform and world leaders to piss off.
You think Cata is an independent? Haven't been here long, have you? He believes that the rich should crawl on their bellies and thank the state for letting them keep some public property for a small while.
You should also beware the "Undisclosed", and there's a "Centrist" who only posts pro-choice (no other forum, no other subject, ever). Let's not take leans at face value.
Sorry. I've been gone a while. Is everything still George Bush's fault?
Do you speak for all Independents?
Then you won't have a liberal in '12 either.
If BO isn't liberal enough for you, may I ask who is? Whom would you appoint POTUS, if you could?
Rick Perry is considered a serious candidate by Republicans???
Man, they really are pathetic if he's a possibility.
Do you speak for all Independents?
That's the way I read it. If the GOP leaders allow Perry or Bachmann to be their candidate, it means they have given up the 2012 election.
Right now, 58% of Independents are undecided. The other 42% are dissatisfied with Obama. Throughout history Independents tend to vote against the Incumbent , and if History remains consistent, the 58% of those who are undecided will vote against Obama.
Being "dissatisfied with Obama" and being willing to vote for someone like Bachmann just to get him out of office are two completely different things.
I am pretty independent. I am with the Dems on some issues, with the Repubs on some issues, and want a combo of the two positions or neither position on still other issues. I don't like Obama or many of the policies that he has been pushing through Congress. However, he is the lesser of two evils if it comes down to him or a number of the current GOP Presidential hopefuls, especially Bachmann. I am not willing to get rid of one bad President for someone who is 5x or 10x worse, just in a different way.
So you would rather have a spend,spend,liberal instead of cut the deficit balance the budget tea party.
You can say you are not liberal but I do not believe you
So you would rather have a spend,spend,liberal instead of cut the deficit balance the budget tea party.
You can say you are not liberal but I do not believe you
I'd rather have someone who is not going to be able to "spend, spend, spend" on what he wants anyway, as long as Congress remains in the hands of the GOP, than have someone who could possibly get really horrible legislation passed through Congress while they have a majority there.
I believe balance works pretty well for us. The best thing we could do would be to have a moderate President and a Congress that is willing to actually compromise to get responsible and reasonable legislation passed that actually could help this country and be within the limits of the Constitution.
Wrong moderate means liberal. We need a coservative. The dems have had control of congress since 2007 and have created 5 trillion in debt.Obama has created over 3 trillion on his watch It is time to throw them out.
We haven't had a credible liberal candidate in my lifetime. We have only elected conservatives or moderates. A liberal President would end both our optional wars immediately, as well as close all the unneeded US military bases around the world and reduce our military spending by 60% back to a defensive force. He would work to restore the progressive tax system that made our middle class strong, and undertake a massive R&D effort for alternative energy similar in intensity to the Manhattan project.
Are you assuming Congress was killed in a nuclear explosion? Or democrats were a) voted in across the boards, and b) not answering to any special interest groups?
Explaining to the far-right what a liberal presidency would be like, if it were to ever occur.
He is the one term Marxist president... If he wins the country loses. But failing to lead the nation out of a depression with sound economic policies worked for FDR. He kept the country impoverished for at least one 4 yer presidential term longer that it might have been. And the poor people loved him. I think the one term Marxist president Obama is trying to follow FDR's example.Maybe if Bachmann says "Obama will be a one term president" about a million more times people will come under the effect of some Tea Party mind trick.
Other than that possibility, I don't see Obama losing in 2012.
He is the one term Marxist president... If he wins the country loses. But failing to lead the nation out of a depression with sound economic policies worked for FDR. He kept the country impoverished for at least one 4 yer presidential term longer that it might have been. And the poor people loved him. I think the one term Marxist president Obama is trying to follow FDR's example.
Explaining to the far-right what a liberal presidency would be like, if it were to ever occur.
So it'd be a dictatorship?
Because as BDBoops post was pointing out, half the **** you said a "liberal presidency" couldn't cause to happen by Presidential fiat.