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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Well you have made an impression on me by sincerely thinking Bachman is 2012 candidate material. Best of luck in the primaries!!!
    Same to you.

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    If Bachwoman or Palin are the headliners of the race then 100% chance Obama will be back. Palin lost the 2008 election for the GOP. Bachman just doesnt have anything going for her except the religious GOP'ers. Romney MIGHT be able to compete.
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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Palin lost the 2008 election for the GOP.
    Actually a far larger case could be made that Palin kept the 2008 election from being a landslide instead of just a solid loss. In the wake of her announcement McCain had his first rise above Obama in the polls in month, helped make the RNC far more helpful to their ticket than the DNC was to Obama's, significantly increased cash donations into the campaign, invigorated an apathetic base that may not have turned out in decent numbers, and generally did not begin to truly get the staggeringly bad numbers with "independents" close to teh end and after the election at a time when McCain was also polling poorly with independents and Obama had been polling AMAZINGLY well with them from the start.

    McCain and his horrible campaign strategy hurt the GOP in 2008, not Palin.

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post

    Oh. And please quote all of my post in the future. Thanks. (Isn't that a rule here anyway?)
    Not that I can see. Is there a reason it is so very important to you?

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Looking at the alternatives on offer, the only question is the size of his winning margin.
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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Actually a far larger case could be made that Palin kept the 2008 election from being a landslide instead of just a solid loss. In the wake of her announcement McCain had his first rise above Obama in the polls in month, helped make the RNC far more helpful to their ticket than the DNC was to Obama's, significantly increased cash donations into the campaign, invigorated an apathetic base that may not have turned out in decent numbers, and generally did not begin to truly get the staggeringly bad numbers with "independents" close to teh end and after the election at a time when McCain was also polling poorly with independents and Obama had been polling AMAZINGLY well with them from the start.

    McCain and his horrible campaign strategy hurt the GOP in 2008, not Palin.
    Besides that, I think McCain would have had a fighting chance if he had not muzzled Palin from tearing into Obama during the election because he didn't want to come out looking like a racist. If she were to get the nomination, she wouldn't have McCain holding her back this time.

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    No, trust me, we want Bachmann to win the GOP Primary.
    I remember the Dems acting like they were afraid of McCain too while secretly hoping he would get the nomination.

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    I voted for McCain in 2008. Whether I vote for Obama, the GOP candidate, or a third party/not at all depends on who the GOP nominates.

    It seems to me that the GOP favorites, atm, are mostly far right social conservatives who would try to enact laws that I would view as a violation of freedom, no matter what they want to do with the economy. There is no guarantee that whatever their plans for the economy are, that they will work. And some of them have plans that sound very likely to screw over a lot of people, especially poor and lower-middle class people, such as eliminating minimum wage. Which, btw, is likely to cause a much higher job demand, although it would probably lower unemployment. So it would look good on paper but not likely improve the situation of most people.

    I can't stand Obama. I think he is a bad president (based on my views on immigration, health care, government spending (specifically where the money is spent and where to make reductions) and his actions in these areas). However, I don't think there are a lot of GOP candidates that would actually do what I want done either or improve the situation quickly. But there are a lot of GOP candidates who have openly announced their intentions to make things worse (at least concerning certain social issues) than Obama has done on these other issues.

    I would vote for Obama if it meant keeping Michelle Bachman out of office. That woman scares the crap out of me. Most of the other potential candidates would probably just cause me to either vote for a third party or not vote at all. I'm not sure there is a GOP candidate right now that I would actually vote for. It would probably depend on what I see from them in the next year+ and what happens in that time.
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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    I had to vote "Yes", but I don't think it will be a landslide by any means. I think it will be much closer than it was in 2008 - that is, if the Republicans offer up someone reasonable.

    Ad Roguenuke said above: if it's Bachmann, I can see some Republicans holding their noses and voting for Obama - as much as the thought might make them shudder.

    The true question is what happens with the debt ceiling. If Republicans prevent this from getting passed and economy tanks as a result, they will have a hard time keeping their majorities. If something gets passed, then we'll probably still have split government, with a smaller Republican majority in the House and a close-to-split Senate.

    I withhold the right to change all predictions based on what happens with the debt ceiling debate, though. This is starting to scare the crap out of me.

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post

    The true question is what happens with the debt ceiling. If Republicans prevent this from getting passed and economy tanks as a result, they will have a hard time keeping their majorities. If something gets passed, then we'll probably still have split government, with a smaller Republican majority in the House and a close-to-split Senate.
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    I think if the Republicans hold up the debt ceiling the party will become a mere blip on the radar screen.

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