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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I know that's your attitude. But not really what's relevant.
    National (US) Poll * July 13, 2011 * Bachmann Surging In 2012 GOP R - Quinnipiac University – Hamden, Connecticut

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    3. If the 2012 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were - Barack Obama the Democrat and Michele Bachmann the Republican for whom would you vote? 
    
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    Obama                50%    10%    88%    43%    48%    52%    43%    91%
    Bachmann             38     80      6     40     40     35     45      3
    SMONE ELSE(VOL)       3      1      1      4      3      2      2      2
    WLDN'T VOTE(VOL)      3      2      1      5      3      2      3      1
    DK/NA                 7      6      5      8      6      8      8      3
    They haven't debated each other yet. The economy is what's going to hurt Obama and right now Bachmann is pounding him hard on it. If she gets the nomination and faces him in a debate, they'll have to clean Obama up off the floor with a mop.

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    One thing that I notice about these numbers is that only one candidate seems to be taking votes away from Obama, Romney.
    Another thing I notice is that Palin seems to be awarding votes to Obama

    President Barack Obama tops all leading GOP White House hopefuls, hitting the all- important 50-percent mark against every candidate but Romney:
    47 - 41 percent over Romney, unchanged from June 8;
    50 - 38 percent over Bachmann, who was not matched against Obama June 8;
    53 - 34 percent over Sarah Palin, compared to 53 - 36 percent June 8;
    50 - 37 percent over Perry, who was not matched against Obama June 8.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    One thing that I notice about these numbers is that only one candidate seems to be taking votes away from Obama, Romney.
    Another thing I notice is that Palin seems to be awarding votes to Obama

    President Barack Obama tops all leading GOP White House hopefuls, hitting the all- important 50-percent mark against every candidate but Romney:
    47 - 41 percent over Romney, unchanged from June 8;
    50 - 38 percent over Bachmann, who was not matched against Obama June 8;
    53 - 34 percent over Sarah Palin, compared to 53 - 36 percent June 8;
    50 - 37 percent over Perry, who was not matched against Obama June 8.
    So far, Romney is Hilary Clinton for '08. Everything looks great, but you still never know. In all honesty, I hope it comes down to Hunstman and Romney, they're the only two Republicans I think have an actual chance of beating Obama, and could do a good job as President.
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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    One thing that I notice about these numbers is that only one candidate seems to be taking votes away from Obama, Romney.
    Another thing I notice is that Palin seems to be awarding votes to Obama
    Yes. Palin has been 'out there' a while, so naturally she has been hammered more, for the obvious reasons. The only people beating on Romney now are his own Party's fringe. If he gets nominated he'll be beat on a lot more severely, and there is plenty of baggage to beat him down with. I don't see him as beating Obama in a general election.

    I find it interesting just how ineffective the right wing Noise Machine is, considering it runs 24/7, 7 days a week, all year every year, and the Democrats' media experts haven't even geared up to kick off the election cycle yet. Once that happens, look for at least a 10 point swing in favor of Obama, and if the 'Tea Party' yahooes don't at least compromise and get rid of some of those Defense programs and agree to eliminate some of those useless tax benefits for fund managers, you can count on bigger swings rolling up to November 2012.
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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

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    Because he's too liberal and is friends with Obama.
    Explain to me how he's too liberal? Also, tell me if you voted for George Bush or not.

    Second, Ronald Reagan was friends with Tip O'Neil. What in the world does being Friends with a Democratic Rival (And I'm unsure if that even qualifies with Huntsman or if he's just on friendly terms with Obama) have to do with anything? Unless you think Ronald Reagan was some kind of worthless President because of it its a ridiculous argument.

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    They haven't debated each other yet. The economy is what's going to hurt Obama and right now Bachmann is pounding him hard on it. If she gets the nomination and faces him in a debate, they'll have to clean Obama up off the floor with a mop.
    Aren't you the type that went on and on about Obama's experience in 2008?

    What experience with the economy or track record does Bachmann actually have? She's been in congress while unemployment and our debt has gone up, never had any executive experience, has no legitimate credentials with spurring economic growth, creating jobs, or helping to significantly improve the economic climate for businesses. This is who we expect to wipe the floor with Obama on the economy?

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    If the Republicans run Bachmann I predict a loss on par with the 2008 loss, if not a larger landslide. She has very little cross over appeal because her significantly right wing, in some cases pretty far right wing, social views will ward off many independents that would be interested in her for fiscal and governmental reasons because she's dumb enough to make it a focus and has made enough stupid comments in the past that opponents can make it a bigger focus if she doesn't.

    I think Santorum is dead in the water for much the same reason.

    I think Pawlenty could make a legitimate case. I think he's a bit of a bland candidate but I think could have some cross over potential and has actual executive experience to point to.

    Romney may have the best chance to actually get the nomination and beat Obama, yet is the hardest to sell to the base I think...even more than Paul or Huntsman..and I think is the most "typical politician" feel of any of the candidates. He just doesn't seem trust worthy, very fickle, and hard to trust.

    I think next to Romney, Huntsman has by far the best bet and as long as the primaries don't get TOO nasty I think he actually could have a very good shot to take down Obama. I think he has a better shot than Romney IF he got the nomination, but is a longer shot to get it than Romney is. I also have far more faith in him sticking to his fiscal and governmental conservative principles which by and large he's rather strong on and being just enough of a regulator from keeping a Republican congress from going "bat-**** stupid part II" when they have a majority and deciding to abandon fiscal and governmental conservatism in favor of SOCIAL SOCIAL SOCIAL.

    Right now my hope is Huntsman followed by Paul, who I think would likely lose but I believe could significantly set up the ideological next step for the Republican Party ala Goldwater's attempted run. I just hope its not Bachmann because I think that almost garauntee's an Obama win. Even my die hard, full on, "I'd rather you come home gay than a democrat", mother flat out said she hopes the woman doesn't get the nod because it means we're getting 4 more years of him.

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    They haven't debated each other yet. The economy is what's going to hurt Obama and right now Bachmann is pounding him hard on it. If she gets the nomination and faces him in a debate, they'll have to clean Obama up off the floor with a mop.
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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

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    Aren't you the type that went on and on about Obama's experience in 2008?

    What experience with the economy or track record does Bachmann actually have? She's been in congress while unemployment and our debt has gone up, never had any executive experience, has no legitimate credentials with spurring economic growth, creating jobs, or helping to significantly improve the economic climate for businesses. This is who we expect to wipe the floor with Obama on the economy?
    Bachmann has a lot more experience now than Obama had when he was elected in 2008.

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    Re: Do you think Obama will be reelected in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    Bachmann has a lot more experience now than Obama had when he was elected in 2008.
    in what, saying insane and ridiculous things?

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