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    Re: What Are Our Common American Values?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    There really is no single set of values common to all Americans... as this thread will shortly demonstrate.
    I have to agree. The values that we consider making us common to all Americans, aren't very common. I think that the only one that I can think of right now, not in the entirity but in the majority, is that we always support the troops, not the per se, but always the troops.
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    Re: What Are Our Common American Values?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I especially liked the one in bold ... haymarket.

    Oh on voting ... well one comment I would like to see that our government offcial that we vote upon are those that rise as representatives of we the people and not the highest corporate bidder.

    Elected officials are our public servants not vehicles strictly for corporate interests.
    As did I. There are no freedoms without your responsibility to them.
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    Re: What Are Our Common American Values?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    There really is no single set of values common to all Americans... as this thread will shortly demonstrate.
    This is the cynicism I referred to in the OP. We know this to be true by simple virtue of common tenets of all religions. We know this because we have a clear record of the millenia old struggle for individuals to be secure in their property, of self government, of success of merit, not privileged. These are basic and broad concepts, necessitated by the need to encompass many beliefs, not just one. It's not the path of belief that is at issue, it's the shared goal of that practice.

    Sure, any value can be dissected to find minor differences in interpretation... it takes no cleverness to do so. The higher road is to allow enough freedom to all men to reach in their way to the lofty goals of a more perfect union.

    Union, unity, foundational order, no matter how basic is preferred to the white noise of non-self critical finger pointing.

    We must not fail to find unifying principles lest we forever remain divided and at the mercy of those that profit most from the laws made. That is the eventual outcome we find ourselves in. The only way to break this current is not to micro examine it, but to paint with the broad strokes of red white and blue, the common will of the people.

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    Re: What Are Our Common American Values?

    1) Democracy.
    2) Rule of Law
    3) Want lots of stuff.

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    Re: What Are Our Common American Values?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I especially liked the one in bold ... haymarket.

    Oh on voting ... well one comment I would like to see that our government officials that we vote upon are those that rise as representatives of we the people and not the highest corporate bidder.

    Elected officials are our public servants not vehicles strictly for corporate interests.

    Sadly ... Justices Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Roberts, Alito overturned the McCain-Feingold law assuring that the that voting for a chosen representative by the people is a lost American value.

    January 22 ... the day the music died.

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    At the risk of sidetracking my own thread...

    There should be another option to the "Like" button... a Bullseye...

    Okay... time to consolidate the list and see where we stand and what should be added.... or removed....

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    Re: What Are Our Common American Values?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    1) Democracy.
    2) Rule of Law
    3) Want lots of stuff.
    Quick note... to be included, "democracy" must be soundly supported. The founders were very clear... democracy is a dangerous form of government, what they gave us instead, based on study of history's past governments, was a representative government designed to protect the Bill of Rights against majority will. It's no trick to isolate a segment of the population, declare them to be without rights and take their rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...

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    Re: What Are Our Common American Values?

    The list so far...

    opportunity to advance ones self in the social structure

    free public education for all

    equal rights under the law

    no rigid class structure giving unfair inherited advantage from generation to generation / making you own way as your own person

    right to own private property

    Freedoms balanced with responsibility

    voting for our government officials

    limited government and checks and balances in our government

    respect for the rights of others

    hard work and a decent days pay for that hard work

    "Promoting social and economic justice"

    "The right of every citizen to pursue life, liberty and happiness"

    "Individual rights"

    "Privacy"

    Rule of Law

    Want lots of stuff.

    Suggestions for combining or consolidating some of these into more broad concepts is greatly encouraged. So is challenging the inclusion or omission of an item.




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    Re: What Are Our Common American Values?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    There really is no single set of values common to all Americans... as this thread will shortly demonstrate.
    Yeah that.

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    Re: What Are Our Common American Values?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    I have to agree. The values that we consider making us common to all Americans, aren't very common. I think that the only one that I can think of right now, not in the entirity but in the majority, is that we always support the troops, not the per se, but always the troops.
    that was supposed to say "not the war per se" but that's what I get for posting right when I wake up.
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    Re: What Are Our Common American Values?

    Just a comment. I don't like the word ‘common’. How about ‘shared’?

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