View Poll Results: Do you have children?

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  • Female: I have kid(s)/ I want kid(s)

    6 9.38%
  • Female: I don't want children

    2 3.13%
  • Male: I have kid(s)/ I want kid(s)

    30 46.88%
  • Male: I don't want children

    19 29.69%
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Some people do genuinely lack the instinct to reproduce as evidenced above. There's nothing wrong with that so long as those people don't live under the mistaken assumption that they are somehow more intelligent or productive than those who choose to have children.
    I agree with this... There is nothing worse than seeing somebody unfit to parent have a child. Some people are not meant to be parents at all.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    I wonder; does anybody care that George Clooney didn't choose fatherhood? Or is it just the women that are judged?

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I wonder; does anybody care that George Clooney didn't choose fatherhood? Or is it just the women that are judged?
    ...This is kinda why most people who self-identify as childfree are women. Men don't seem to get sharp end of this particular stick as often and they are treated more fairly in their health care, so they have less need for the label, generally speaking.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    ...This is kinda why most people who self-identify as childfree are women. Men don't seem to get sharp end of this particular stick as often and they are treated more fairly in their health care, so they have less need for the label, generally speaking.
    How so, "treated more fairly in their health care?"

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    It could be a denial that you truly do not lack those needs, but rather don't realize you have them yet. I'm not saying this is true in your case, but it was in mine. I've made all of the same arguments you've made in this forum on this particular subject. And yet after an unexpected pregnancy, I felt different. Most people in your position likely do change on that subject. But really, how do I know what he meant?
    I think it's possible but at the same time, some people are not fit to parent and shouldn't. If a person realizes that, then that's great.. if not, then the results can be tragic.

    I have seen people beg Children Services to get their kids back, meanwhile their kids are begging Children Services not to go back. For some reason, it seems like they have that instinct to see their children and parent, even though they are terrible at it, neglectful, put the child in danger and can't adequately provide for the child. It's really selfish.

    I also have a friend, and her daughter is by a dead beat dad... but every now and then he tries to reach her to see his daughter. She doesn't even call him dad, but he'll try to contact her around the holidays or his birthdays. I don't know... I don't understand it. I guess it's just selfishness.

    Point is, some people aren't fit to parent and don't know it. When they do know it, bravo. I have seeing kids mistreated.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    How so, "treated more fairly in their health care?"
    Much easier to get sterilized, mostly. It's pretty much a two-visit process for men, it seems. For women it's a years-long nightmare.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I think you are assuming a lot... Let's just say I don't have kids, that doesn't mean I'll die old and alone. I have nieces that I am very close to, and if I didn't have children I'd leave everything to them. I am close to them, and I know they'd care for me.

    Instead of arguing what the government can and can't do, you should look at from the POV of the individual, the person, because people are capable of doing the right thing in the absence of government... The government doesn't and cannot force anybody to show compassion to you when you are dying. The government just makes it more affordable.
    Very true.

    One reason that I am fine about not having children of my own is because I think that even though people have parents they could also use mentors. And one group that I think really needs mentoring the most are those 20-somethings who are now out on their own but don't have much in the way of education or experience and so still need guidance.

    Have you ever seen someone talk to their parents and then utterly dismiss what their parents say but then someone else could say the same thing and that person will give careful and due consideration? I can understand that since people are used to parents telling them what to do all their lives, so they may dismiss it automatically as "dad just being dad and mom just being mom." But when someone who doesn't have that parental attachment tells them something they may consider it more.

    That's why I'd like mentoring to be more important in this country, especially, as I said, to young adults.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I have a friend who is not only child free, but both her brothers are as well. Why? Because her parents purely ****ed up just that badly.

    Not everything is black, white, and knowable.
    My brother doesn't have kids because he can't, and he is happy...

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I don't understand why threads like this always have to turn into the non-parental types vs. the parental types. If you don't want kids, fine. If you do want kids, fine. But neither side is superior to the other on the premise of those desires alone. Seriously.
    I don't get it either... It seems like the people who have kids are insulted by others not wanting kids.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    if those who didn't want to have kids were willing to sign over any future obligations they would want to put on my kids to support them, that would be fine.
    Do your kids go to public schools, will they drive on public streets, will they vote, will they go to the public library? If so, we are all attributing to them. You're argument is ridiculous. Oh, and your in the military, so all of us taxpayers are practically feeding them and paying their medical bills.

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