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  • Female: I have kid(s)/ I want kid(s)

    6 9.38%
  • Female: I don't want children

    2 3.13%
  • Male: I have kid(s)/ I want kid(s)

    30 46.88%
  • Male: I don't want children

    19 29.69%
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    And yet they should have to get a license from the government?
    ...Is this addressed to me as well?

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Kind of. I really can't imagine caring for a kid that wasn't my own as much as I do for the ones that are my own. I could probably care some, but I'd have to try. With my own, it is as natural as breathing air.
    The least important part of a child is his bloodline.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Really? Prefer to back that up? Do you seriously mean to tell me that producing more people has hardly any affect on the environment? And how, exactly, is it that I would produce a greater footprint? I'd love to see you make that case.
    It makes a good bit of sense, actually. People in developed countries tend to have smaller families compared to underdeveloped countries where the majority of people rely on subsistence farming. Large families in underdeveloped countires often life in areas and homes with no electricity whatsoever, and heat/cook by burning wood or animal dung rather than coal or fossil fuels.

    The average Childless American lives in a well lit, and well heated/cooled house/apartement while driving his/her very own gas guzzler on a daily basis. One Average American has a larger carbon footprint than an entire Nepalese village.
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It makes a good bit of sense, actually. People in developed countries tend to have smaller families compared to underdeveloped countries where the majority of people rely on subsistence farming. Large families in underdeveloped countires often life in areas and homes with no electricity whatsoever, and heat/cook by burning wood or animal dung rather than coal or fossil fuels.

    The average Childless American lives in a well lit, and well heated/cooled house/apartement while driving his/her very own gas guzzler on a daily basis. One Average American has a larger carbon footprint than an entire Nepalese village.
    Yes, and families with children typically have multiple cars, and bigger living spaces. Those kids grow up to have their own living spaces and cars.

    I actually don't drive - I prefer to live in places where I don't need to - and I don't want a house. I have a very small footprint, really.

    This isn't even a stance I personally advocate. It's just straight-up irrational to deny that creating people = creating a new carbon footprint.
    Last edited by SmokeAndMirrors; 07-10-11 at 08:39 PM.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    I already got 6. Another one would probably push right on over the edge.

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    When I saw the thing about the carbon footprint and made me laugh so much, I was able to fly my roflcopter all the way to roflworld for some rofl waffles.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    And yet they should have to get a license from the government?
    Yup.

    In order to get a license to keep your child, a person will have to undergo classes in which they get educated in how to care for a child. They also get educated on the local, state, and federal programs available to them so they can take advantage of them.

    But, if it makes you feel any better, I also think that mothers and fathers should get paid maternity and paternity leaves.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Yup.

    In order to get a license to keep your child, a person will have to undergo classes in which they get educated in how to care for a child. They also get educated on the local, state, and federal programs available to them so they can take advantage of them.

    But, if it makes you feel any better, I also think that mothers and fathers should get paid maternity and paternity leaves.
    The government already offers classes and advice through many federal and state programs, these programs also give incentives for parents to use these services such as coupons, vouchers, DVDs, etc
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Yes, and families with children typically have multiple cars, and bigger living spaces. Those kids grow up to have their own living spaces and cars.
    You missed the point. Almost entirely.
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    I quoted you saying it. And what you SAID requires no psychoanalyzing.
    Bull patties. Now you're being dishonest as well as being lousy at psychoanalyzing.


    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    It is clear that your opinion is that the childfree are just in denial of their "needs."
    No. It's not. I clearly qualified my statement. I specifically mentioned that I wasn't applying my interpretation of someone else's post to you. Either you're being purposely obtuse in place of a reasonable argument; or you're clearly mistaken, and you need to reread this thread.




    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Really? Prefer to back that up? Do you seriously mean to tell me that producing more people has hardly any affect on the environment? And how, exactly, is it that I would produce a greater footprint? I'd love to see you make that case.
    Mac answered you're question already. Compare the amount of hydrocarbons the average person in a first world nation produces with a mother of six in a third world country. The average childless American could easily surpass that amount. You don't need to drive a car. Even your computer uses a surprising amount of energy. I suggest that YOU back up YOUR statement with facts. You made the assertion, YOU back it up-that's how a debate works.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    ...Is this addressed to me as well?
    Obviously not. I was responding to samsmart's post:

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I don't think the government should have any say on who shouldn't breed because of genetic diseases. That should be decided by on a personal basis.

    While I say that, I do have to point out, however, that I think that people should be required to get a license before they are allowed to raise a child.
    Which is why I quoted it.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It makes a good bit of sense, actually. People in developed countries tend to have smaller families compared to underdeveloped countries where the majority of people rely on subsistence farming. Large families in underdeveloped countires often life in areas and homes with no electricity whatsoever, and heat/cook by burning wood or animal dung rather than coal or fossil fuels.

    The average Childless American lives in a well lit, and well heated/cooled house/apartement while driving his/her very own gas guzzler on a daily basis. One Average American has a larger carbon footprint than an entire Nepalese village.
    Now that is a no brainer.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Yes, and families with children typically have multiple cars, and bigger living spaces. Those kids grow up to have their own living spaces and cars.

    I actually don't drive - I prefer to live in places where I don't need to - and I don't want a house. I have a very small footprint, really.

    This isn't even a stance I personally advocate. It's just straight-up irrational to deny that creating people = creating a new carbon footprint.
    I bet you're sitting in an airconditioned room on your chair made from plastic and other petroleum by products.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I already got 6. Another one would probably push right on over the edge.
    Selfish bastard! Think of your carbon footprint!
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