View Poll Results: Do you have children?

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  • Female: I have kid(s)/ I want kid(s)

    6 9.38%
  • Female: I don't want children

    2 3.13%
  • Male: I have kid(s)/ I want kid(s)

    30 46.88%
  • Male: I don't want children

    19 29.69%
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Oh, please; DO point out where I did that.
    The first half of your post. I'm sure you know what you said, I shouldn't need to quote it.
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Yes, they do. Like saying the childfree are in "denial." It really does stink.
    And just to be clear once more: I never said that. So your earlier hostility was misplaced.

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    Yeah, but you went into it with the expectation of getting something in return. That is selfish. It's good that at least you're attempting to earn it, but the expectation is still very selfish.

    There are a lot of people who decide to be childfree for environmental reasons. Not having kids is the single biggest way you can reign in your carbon footprint. Or genetic reasons. Perhaps they have something they don't want to pass on. Or simply the knowledge that they wouldn't make good parents.

    You're making the automatic assumption that all reproduction is automatically good for society. It isn't. This is shown in your own ethos by the contempt you have for people on public assistance.
    I agree such an assumption is incorrect. People with certain genetic diseases, for example, shouldn't breed for the good of society. The problem with that is where to draw the line. But the carbon footprint argument is largely unsupported.
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    And just to be clear once more: I never said that. So your earlier hostility was misplaced.
    Right.

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    It could be a denial that you truly do not lack those needs, but rather don't realize you have them yet. I'm not saying this is true in your case, but it was in mine. I've made all of the same arguments you've made in this forum on this particular subject. And yet after an unexpected pregnancy, I felt different. Most people in your position likely do change on that subject. But really, how do I know what he meant?
    Saying "it may not be true in your case, but since it happened to me, blah blah blah" is basically like saying, "I'm not saying YOU'RE a selfish evil baby-hater, I'm just saying you people usually are." It's very passive-aggressive and it's obvious what you're really saying.

    You DID actually say it. Could you please simply admit that? Maybe rescinding it would be a good idea?

    I agree such an assumption is incorrect. People with certain genetic diseases, for example, shouldn't breed for the good of society. The problem with that is where to draw the line. But the carbon footprint argument is largely unsupported.
    The line's easy. Whatever that individual decides.

    The carbon footprint is extremely supported, for once very obvious reason. Creating another person creates a whole new human with a carbon footprint. That should be a no-brainer. Whether you think that can be mitigated is another argument. But it is beyond contest that making more people makes more carbon footprints.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    This thread is great. Especially if you picture all of the arguing posters throwing tantrums like babies. Or better yet, throwing babies at each other.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    I agree such an assumption is incorrect. People with certain genetic diseases, for example, shouldn't breed for the good of society. The problem with that is where to draw the line. But the carbon footprint argument is largely unsupported.
    I don't think the government should have any say on who shouldn't breed because of genetic diseases. That should be decided by on a personal basis.

    While I say that, I do have to point out, however, that I think that people should be required to get a license before they are allowed to raise a child.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Right.
    Yes, it is right. I gave no reason to believe otherwise. Supposition is all you have.


    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Saying "it may not be true in your case, but since it happened to me, blah blah blah" is basically like saying, "I'm not saying YOU'RE a selfish evil baby-hater, I'm just saying you people usually are." It's very passive-aggressive and it's obvious what you're really saying.
    Your poor attempts of psychologically analyzing me is becoming annoying. I meant exactly what I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    You DID actually say it. Could you please simply admit that? Maybe rescinding it would be a good idea?
    I said no such thing. Red herrings are in season in this thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    The line's easy. Whatever that individual decides.

    The carbon footprint is extremely supported, for once very obvious reason. Creating another person creates a whole new human with a carbon footprint. That should be a no-brainer. Whether you think that can be mitigated is another argument. But it is beyond contest that making more people makes more carbon footprints.
    I've got news for you: Most people who have kids don't produce even half of the carbon footprint that you will produce in your childless life time. You do realize that most people don't live in first world nations, I assume?
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    Re: Do you want children?

    I want the two daughters that I have now but I do not want any more... thanks.
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I don't think the government should have any say on who shouldn't breed because of genetic diseases. That should be decided by on a personal basis.

    While I say that, I do have to point out, however, that I think that people should be required to get a license before they are allowed to raise a child.
    And yet they should have to get a license from the government?
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    I've got news for you: Most people who have kids don't produce even half of the carbon footprint that you will produce in your childless life time. You do realize that most people don't live in first world nations, I assume?
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Yes, it is right. I gave no reason to believe otherwise. Supposition is all you have.


    Your poor attempts of psychologically analyzing me is becoming annoying. I meant exactly what I said.

    I said no such thing. Red herrings are in season in this thread.
    I quoted you saying it. And what you SAID requires no psychoanalyzing. It is clear that your opinion is that the childfree are just in denial of their "needs."

    I've got news for you: Most people who have kids don't produce even half of the carbon footprint that you will produce in your childless life time. You do realize that most people don't live in first world nations, I assume?
    Really? Prefer to back that up? Do you seriously mean to tell me that producing more people has hardly any affect on the environment? And how, exactly, is it that I would produce a greater footprint? I'd love to see you make that case.
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