View Poll Results: Do you have children?

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  • Female: I have kid(s)/ I want kid(s)

    6 9.38%
  • Female: I don't want children

    2 3.13%
  • Male: I have kid(s)/ I want kid(s)

    30 46.88%
  • Male: I don't want children

    19 29.69%
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    Re: Do you want children?

    Can't we talk about how adorable this is, instead of the back and forth bitterness?:

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Yeah, but you went into it with the expectation of getting something in return. That is selfish. It's good that at least you're attempting to earn it, but the expectation is still very selfish.

    There are a lot of people who decide to be childfree for environmental reasons. Not having kids is the single biggest way you can reign in your carbon footprint. Or genetic reasons. Perhaps they have something they don't want to pass on. Or simply the knowledge that they wouldn't make good parents.

    You're making the automatic assumption that all reproduction is automatically good for society. It isn't. This is shown in your own ethos by the contempt you have for people on public assistance.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    i don't have contempt for people on public assistance - i consider it wrong to drain public assistance if one does not need it, and I hold that decision in contempt.

    nor did i go into parenthood for selfish reasons - quite the opposite. I expect my boys to take care of me in my older years the same way I expect the person I greet at the door to say "hey" back - because it's what good people do. I would suspect people who give up children "to reduce their carbon footprint"; though no doubt you get some who do.

    however, whatever you reason; it doesn't change the math.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Both the wife and I don't want kids and frankly, it's a little late for us to start even if we wanted to. At 42 - it would be difficult at best and I'd already be 62 when they are in college... not something I'd relish actually. Besides that, I just don't see an upside to bringing kids up in this current economic / world environment. In the mid 80's when I was young and the fall of Communism blablabla... I did think about it and considered it but just didn't have the right person. Now that I've got the right person, things have changed - I think kids born today will have a helluva time in 30-50 years from now and I don't want to bring kids into the world. No thanks.
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    Re: Do you want children?

    "Hmmm...Can't decide if I want to watch "Four Houses" or give myself an Icy Hot pee hole enema..." - Blake Shelton


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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    i don't have contempt for people on public assistance - i consider it wrong to drain public assistance if one does not need it, and I hold that decision in contempt.

    nor did i go into parenthood for selfish reasons - quite the opposite. I expect my boys to take care of me in my older years the same way I expect the person I greet at the door to say "hey" back - because it's what good people do. I would suspect people who give up children "to reduce their carbon footprint"; though no doubt you get some who do.

    however, whatever you reason; it doesn't change the math.
    It's unavoidable. I'm assuming you discovered your partner was pregnant fairly early on. You can't possibly ask the child what they want. You MUST make a decision based on what YOU want. It is inherently selfish.

    Expecting someone to take care of you is somewhat greater in scope than expecting decent manners. Especially since no one asked them if they'd like to deal with that expectation in the first place.

    The math is not that catastrophic in the long run. And a lot of people would argue it's a good thing.

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    Re: Do you want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad
    That is very clear double-speak.
    Six post later...

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Having kids is a completely selfish decision. So is not having them.



    ANYWAYS:

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    "Hmmm...Can't decide if I want to watch "Four Houses" or give myself an Icy Hot pee hole enema..." - Blake Shelton


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    So follow me into the desert
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    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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