No doubt communism.
Both the same
Caspar the friendly ghost
No doubt communism.
Both are extreme, and result in the break down of society. In both scenarios, lots of people would die. There would be very little economic success because neither central planning nor no planning at all will work.
“In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” -Napoleon
So am I. I don't believe humans can obtain more than a modicum of the virtue necessary to maintain any kind of society very well. That modicum is the difference between success and decline, however.I have to consider outcomes, though, because I am much more of a realist than an idealist.
I'm aware that noting that anarchy was intermediary contradicted my subsequent assertion about the importance of virtues over specific political systems in the acquisition of success, but I was working from the idea that anarchy required "that much more" additional virtue.Well, I agree with your assessment that anarchism is only an intermediary, but that is only taking the outcome into consideration. There are anarchists who believe in anarchy as a stable end-state.
Some system impose heavier demands than others. I suppose that makes them "worse", though a less sympathetic interpretation is that humans aren't worthy of them.I can agree with this, except that some systems are worse than others. However, human behavior is the root problem.
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If you notice something good in yourself, give credit to God, not to yourself, but be certain the evil you commit is always your own and yours to acknowledge.
I will say that anarchy is worse, because I believe it will likely be more bloody and deadly than communism as it would inevitably give rise to sectarian violence and then devolve into a dictatorship. At least communism would devolve into a dictatorship without all the bloodshed first.
Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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You need to define those words a little better. If you're talking about Marxism and Anarcho-syndicalism, the systems are pretty much indistinguishable. You could also be talking about Soviet-style socialism and anarcho-capitalism, which are about as far apart as two systems can get. Or you could be talking about chaotic, unstructured anarchy, as in Somalia. I'll go ahead and assume you're talking about chaotic anarchy and Soviet-style socialism, in which case I'd say anarchy is the better choice. Chaos means opportunity.
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Communism, on the other hand, needs a lot of central power to ensure the proper distribution of labor/capital/etc, and to prevent people from reacquiring private property. It starts, for all practical purposes, as a ready-made totalitarian power.
I don't know... You might live a little longer, because starvation can take a while...however, in the communism scenario, I think I would be less likely to die.
But really, as you mentioned earlier, anarchism would lead to bloodshed, but so would communism. In communism it would just come a little later -- problem is, it's much more systematic and insidious. Anarchism would be random violence between groups, communism devolves into purges, secret police, rationing, extreme rationing, confiscation, witch hunts for internal subversives, etc.
Well communism and anarchism both strive for the same goals per say.
But what form of communism and what form of anarchism?
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