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    Re: Is Wille Getting the Shaft?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Admitting to being under the influence of a substance he is accused of possessing to try to escape a possession charge?
    Well, you can't get busted for ashes (I don't think).
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    Re: Is Wille Getting the Shaft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Well, you can't get busted for ashes (I don't think).
    IS a under the influence charge better than a possession charge?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Is Wille Getting the Shaft?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    IS a under the influence charge better than a possession charge?
    It's too late. He would be straight as an arrow now, or at least when he goes to court.
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    Re: Is Wille Getting the Shaft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    It's too late. He would be straight as an arrow now, or at least when he goes to court.
    But wouldn't saying he was high when he made the plea bargain be basically admitting to being under the influence?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Is Wille Getting the Shaft?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    But wouldn't saying he was high when he made the plea bargain be basically admitting to being under the influence?
    He would be admitting to having been high in a past tense. Water under the bridge. Say someone here admitted to marijuana use 15 years ago. Could they be arrested for being under the influence?
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    Re: Is Wille Getting the Shaft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    He would be admitting to having been high in a past tense. Water under the bridge. Say someone here admitted to marijuana use 15 years ago. Could they be arrested for being under the influence?
    15 years ago and at the time of making a plea deal are two separate things. Plus there is the fact he is being charged with possession. Kind of hard to say you didn't possess an illegal substance if you basically confess to being under the influence of it when you are agreeing to a plea deal.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Is Wille Getting the Shaft?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    15 years ago and at the time of making a plea deal are two separate things. Plus there is the fact he is being charged with possession. Kind of hard to say you didn't possess an illegal substance if you basically confess to being under the influence of it when you are agreeing to a plea deal.
    He could say that he was under the influence of whiskey instead.
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