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Self defense: How prepared are you?

What would you do?

  • Draw or grab a firearm that is immediately next to you

    Votes: 23 32.4%

  • Grab a clubbing weapon that is immediately next to you (ex. Golf club, baseball bat, etc)

    Votes: 6 8.5%

  • Grab a stabbing weapon that is immediately next to you (ex. Kitchen knife, pocket knife, etc)

    Votes: 4 5.6%

  • Run to another room to grab a locked up or hidden firearm and confront the home invaders

    Votes: 11 15.5%

  • Run to another room to grab a stabbing or clubbing weapon and confront the home invaders

    Votes: 3 4.2%

  • Run to another room and attempt to hide while dialing 911

    Votes: 2 2.8%

  • Run out the backdoor of the house and attempt to escape

    Votes: 4 5.6%

  • Freeze like a deer in the headlights

    Votes: 2 2.8%

  • Rush the bad guys barehanded

    Votes: 4 5.6%

  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 12 16.9%
  • Total voters
    71
hazlnut said:
These gun-rights pissing contest threads are so predictable. You guys always try to out name-drop each other. Then you start reciting your favorite amendment. Yawn.

Police officers and federal agents just roll their eyes and laugh. Meanwhile the rest of society still has to suffer. Nobody is safer with more guns.
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I don't think you can prove that no one is safer with more guns. California is totally screwed up regarding gun laws. Only law breakers can carry guns for the most part.
 
Jryan said:
I do too, it is called the police.
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You -do- understand that if you have an immediate need to protect yourself with deady force, the police cannot help you - right?
So... what's your plan B?
 
EarlzP said:
I had to take protecting my home and family into my own hands so using the skills I developed in the US Army I set up mini claymore mines to activate to the sounds of breaking glass or shattering wood or composite materials, I posted illuminated signs on my property warning people that my home and property are claymore mine protected. When outside of the confines of my home my family all carry hand gernades and know how to pull the pin so far once the gernade has been shown would be muggers and worst have not stayed around to see if the gernade was actually armed. Since this is a public venue I can not tell anyone whether the gernade is just for show or not

It's a dangerous world out there
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It's really not. Your family has a better chance of being hurt by all these explosives misfiring than of actually using them to protect yourselves from some random attacker. Plus even if you did, I guarantee they'll face legal consequences for it. Using explosives on someone who is not attacking you with that same level of force would not fall under the "reasonable force" provisions for the self-defense exceptions. You'd better hope that no one ever does attack your home, because you'll probably go to prison if they do.

As for me...

I live on the fifth floor of an apartment building that requires a key to get into. Breaking in through that door would trigger an alarm, and I really doubt that any would be burglars would have time to systematically sweet the lower four floors before getting to me before the cops showed up. And I can't imagine why anyone would go directly to my apartment first, if they were going to enact this ludicrous scenario in the first place. In short, my urban living conditions protect me already. I don't need to rely on numerous kitchen knives, the swords in my apartment (which I am surprisingly skilled with, though they are there for decoration only), a random blunt object, or sixteen years of martial arts training to protect myself from the statistically insignificant scenario of two thugs bursting into my apartment while I'm there and awake.

Seriously, just because this happened once, does not mean it is ever going to happen to anyone reading this thread. It is such a minor risk that it's not actually worth taking any precautions against it.
 
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Jryan said:
I do too, it is called the police. Here comes the, "Who is supposed to protect you from them?" To even indicate that you think police would shoot innocent civilians for any reason I think is an insult to our police officers.
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When you need help right this second, the cops are only 3 to 45 minutes away.


Cop on the phone... :afraid::scared::boom
... gun in the hand... :rock :shoot
 
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I don't understand the situation. Two black people have come to kill me randomly? Or did I offend a gang boss or something?
 
Goshin said:
When you need help right this second, the cops are only 3 to 45 minutes away.


Cop on the phone... :afraid::scared::boom
... gun in the hand... :rock :shoot
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So, if you heard a report (when you were on patrol) that someone was shooting a gun in a residential area, would you not of rushed to the scene?
 
I’d rush the bad guys barehanded screaming, ‘this is Sparta!’ :cool:
 
Proud South Korean said:
You could just drop your pants and they would scream out of your house, crying for God to return their eyes :2razz:
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These are actually more realistic and probably successful efforts than the "pull my gun out and shoot them" response, simply because most people arent going to be sitting there with a firearm. Home invasions are successful primarily due to the element of surprise. If you have the wit and ability to hit them where they aint looking by some crazy and aggressive act, they may just figure they are not in control of the situation and bail. You would likely be as effective if you began talking about their mother or grandmother...how they must love their babies and how sad they would be if they saw them doing something like this. Fact is, two on one in a rush situation, someone is getting their ass kicked and it is likely NOT the home invaders.
 
Jryan said:
So, if you heard a report (when you were on patrol) that someone was shooting a gun in a residential area, would you not of rushed to the scene?
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There are a lot of factors involved. Distance; whether there is a patrol car nearby that isn't already involved in something they can't walk away from; traffic and road conditions; clarity with 911 that something really drastic is happening requiring max urgency. Expecting a police response in less than 3 to 5 minutes is typically unrealistic... and you may not have that long. If 911 doesn't understand the urgency of the situation (and sometimes they fail to), or you live in teh boonies, it may be a lot longer.

I was lucky; I had a couple of chances to potentially save a life. Most of the time, though, cops clean up after someone's already dead.
 
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VanceMack said:
They are black because their parents were black? Its basic genetic stuff man...come on. OH...would you feel more comfortable with the scenario if it were more politically correct? OK...two rich white bankers kick in your door. One is wearing a silk Armani, the other a strong Dior number with a red power tie...
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This is the problem with most eye witnesses put a little pressure on them and they can't remember who or what they saw, BTW how do you know they were not females, I know you just assumed they were males because that's the normal stereotype and who would want to admit that they were held up by two beautiful women,one a blue eyed blond and one a dark hair dark eyed beauty
 
EarlzP said:
This is the problem with most eye witnesses put a little pressure on them and they can't remember who or what they saw, BTW how do you know they were not females, I know you just assumed they were males because that's the normal stereotype and who would want to admit that they were held up by two beautiful women,one a blue eyed blond and one a dark hair dark eyed beauty
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As much as people like to think their memory is sharp and on point, they are not. I watched a TV series a couple days ago that played out a crime. Afterwards, they were all questioned together. The show put in 2 people to try and sabotage the account. All they did to do this was simply state what they thought they saw wrongly. So if the person was wearing a black jacket, they said, "I think he was wearing a red jacket." It is called planting ideas. Then someone responds, oh yeah, it was red. The next thing you know the whole room thinks they are the ones who mentioned the red coat. It is something like 1 in 100 actually are good eye witnesses, it has nothing to do with how smart you are. Some people's brains are just wired differently. Think of it like this, without a system and I do know one, could you almost instantly memorize 5 serial codes of 5 different dollars, say given 1 minute to look at them?
 
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I'm thinking a Galco holster or maybe a Bianchi Black Spider holster and the 15 will be my winter carry gun.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Yesterday, I found an excellent quality S & W Combat Masterpiece 15 - 4 and now all is right with the world. IMHO there is no sweeter wheel gun. I had one before and I sold it, like an idiot, and have been looking for a really good quality replacement ever since. I have a 10 - 4, and that's a fine revolver, but it isn't a Model 15. I'm a happy man once again.
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My 13 loves the model 10 he goes to training academies with. He also uses my wife's model 19 as a back up but the one he shoots the most is the 22 version of the gun you got-a 18 in 22LR
 
I have no problem with people owning guns I myself own a gun for hunting but I do think you should have to pass an IQ test before you can own a gun. Makes me very uneasy looking at the dumbasses in walmart who probably own guns.
 
Risky Thicket said:
I'm thinking a Galco holster or maybe a Bianchi Black Spider holster and the 15 will be my winter carry gun.
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I find Galco to be slightly better made than Bianci. My favorite Galco rigs include the Royal Guard (which is a copy of British maker Andy Artoonian's horsehide rigs that are taking a couple years to get some of his stuff
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Higgins86 said:
I have no problem with people owning guns I myself own a gun for hunting but I do think you should have to pass an IQ test before you can own a gun. Makes me very uneasy looking at the dumbasses in walmart who probably own guns.
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we ought to do the same thing with voting if you want to make constitutional rights subject to IQs

I suspect there would be less gun ownership-at least legal gun ownership and a lot less democrats being elected
 
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