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Self defense: How prepared are you?

What would you do?

  • Draw or grab a firearm that is immediately next to you

    Votes: 23 32.4%
  • Grab a clubbing weapon that is immediately next to you (ex. Golf club, baseball bat, etc)

    Votes: 6 8.5%
  • Grab a stabbing weapon that is immediately next to you (ex. Kitchen knife, pocket knife, etc)

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • Run to another room to grab a locked up or hidden firearm and confront the home invaders

    Votes: 11 15.5%
  • Run to another room to grab a stabbing or clubbing weapon and confront the home invaders

    Votes: 3 4.2%
  • Run to another room and attempt to hide while dialing 911

    Votes: 2 2.8%
  • Run out the backdoor of the house and attempt to escape

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • Freeze like a deer in the headlights

    Votes: 2 2.8%
  • Rush the bad guys barehanded

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 12 16.9%

  • Total voters
    71
Many years ago in south Florida there was this very well known Martial Art Instructor. He dispized handguns and always preached against owning them.
This fella was a self made walking weapon. He owned and opperated a popular school, that put out many world class champions, in Karate and other hand to hand fighting techniqes.

He and his girlfriend were mugged and then shot by a punk with a .25 caliber pocket pistol.

Go figure....My point is this. When a person thinks they are safer without a gun.....Their always wrong.


If somebody really wants to shoot and kill you they will. Just because you have a gun doesn't mean you can stop that first shot. How many armed policemen have you heard of being shot to death? I mean that is a guy with his gun on the outside with ready access and with that uniform he is always in code red. Even he can't stop that first shot. True he may get a shot at that perp if he is not totally out of commission.

Am not putting guns down. Someday I may get a pistol but for now I have a shotgun in my bedroom. But when I am out on the street I only carry a razor knife.
 
Call 999 from mobile
Switch mobile to 'camera' mode
Take a photo, shout 'the cops are on their way'
Run like hell to neighbours

Or, in the situation that these are clearly unarmed weaklings, grab the well-used hockey stick from the cupboard in my room and, once photo is taken, then try to menace them off. Generally, though, I'd value my own life over my (insured) possessions.

EDIT: I seem to remember reading a report saying that casual muggings had decreased in the UK, thanks in part to an increased amount of cameraphones being owned by the general populace. When you can take a photo and upload it to facebook within seconds (even if your phone gets grabbed from you in the following minutes, the photo is still online), and with several incidents of crowdsourced person-identification in the media of late, suddenly robbing someone seems a lot harder to get away with.
 
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Call 999 from mobile
Switch mobile to 'camera' mode
Take a photo, shout 'the cops are on their way'
Run like hell to neighbours

Or, in the situation that these are clearly unarmed weaklings, grab the well-used hockey stick from the cupboard in my room and, once photo is taken, then try to menace them off. Generally, though, I'd value my own life over my (insured) possessions.

One of those Cops shows showed a scene like this. This guy was filming some guy beating everybody, including a woman, with his phone. The guy noticed the filming and began coming at the film guy to probably take his camera and to beat the **** out of him. The guy yelled the cops are on the way and the guy started running at him, I assume to get to him faster... the sirens could then be heard in the background and the only thing that saved the film guy was the criminals friends near dragging him away.

Good luck with it if it happens to you man! :)
 
One of those Cops shows showed a scene like this. This guy was filming some guy beating everybody, including a woman, with his phone. The guy noticed the filming and began coming at the film guy to probably take his camera and to beat the **** out of him. The guy yelled the cops are on the way and the guy started running at him, I assume to get to him faster... the sirens could then be heard in the background and the only thing that saved the film guy was the criminals friends near dragging him away.

Good luck with it if it happens to you man! :)
There's no point in filming a scene. I just want some decent way of identifying the people who've broken in. And as edit'd in above, there are nowadays several apps that will post a photo to facebook as soon as it's been taken - so even if I have to throw my phone at the guy to get away, I could still see who it was.

If I have to intimidate someone, it's much easier to do so with the threat of the law, rather than the threat of physical force. Hockey sticks notwithstanding :p
 
Call 999 from mobile
Switch mobile to 'camera' mode
Take a photo, shout 'the cops are on their way'
Run like hell to neighbours

Or, in the situation that these are clearly unarmed weaklings, grab the well-used hockey stick from the cupboard in my room and, once photo is taken, then try to menace them off. Generally, though, I'd value my own life over my (insured) possessions.

EDIT: I seem to remember reading a report saying that casual muggings had decreased in the UK, thanks in part to an increased amount of cameraphones being owned by the general populace. When you can take a photo and upload it to facebook within seconds (even if your phone gets grabbed from you in the following minutes, the photo is still online), and with several incidents of crowdsourced person-identification in the media of late, suddenly robbing someone seems a lot harder to get away with.

A camera phone as a weapon?.....Now thats something someone like PeeWee Herman would endorse.

"OK KIDS, WHEN EVER SOME BAD GUY IS ABOUT TO KILL YOU". "TAKE HIS PICTURE".

Say Hello:2wave:​
 
I'd grab the nearest assault weapon and spray the evil doers with bullets. Then I would say "FREEZE, I have a weapon and I will use it"
 
A camera phone as a weapon?.....Now thats something someone like PeeWee Herman would endorse.

"OK KIDS, WHEN EVER SOME BAD GUY IS ABOUT TO KILL YOU". "TAKE HIS PICTURE".

Say Hello:2wave:​
I should emphasise here that my first priority is to get myself out safely. But yeah - if the opportunity arises, it's much safer to take a photo and run rather than try to take on two guys who may or may not be armed. To do otherwise would be a fine indicator that I've been taking actions films a bit too seriously. Surprising as it may seem, an outnumbered guy normally loses the fight, regardless of what Hollywood might say.
 
There's no point in filming a scene. I just want some decent way of identifying the people who've broken in. And as edit'd in above, there are nowadays several apps that will post a photo to facebook as soon as it's been taken - so even if I have to throw my phone at the guy to get away, I could still see who it was.

If I have to intimidate someone, it's much easier to do so with the threat of the law, rather than the threat of physical force. Hockey sticks notwithstanding :p

The facebook thing is true. The one I was referrencing was 4 or 5 years ago. I was also just busting your balls, I would probably due the same thing... just before I went Ninja Assassin on the guy.
 
I'd grab the nearest assault weapon and spray the evil doers with bullets. Then I would say "FREEZE, I have a weapon and I will use it"

And the bullets go through the walls and kill your sleeping children... well done!
 
A camera phone as a weapon?.....Now thats something someone like PeeWee Herman would endorse.

"OK KIDS, WHEN EVER SOME BAD GUY IS ABOUT TO KILL YOU". "TAKE HIS PICTURE".

Say Hello:2wave:​

A camera is a weapon.
Knowledge is power.
The pen is mightier than the sword.

Just add it to the list.
 
These gun-rights pissing contest threads are so predictable. You guys always try to out name-drop each other. Then you start reciting your favorite amendment. Yawn.

Police officers and federal agents just roll their eyes and laugh. Meanwhile the rest of society still has to suffer. Nobody is safer with more guns.
 
These gun-rights pissing contest threads are so predictable. You guys always try to out name-drop each other. Then you start reciting your favorite amendment. Yawn.
Police officers and federal agents just roll their eyes and laugh. Meanwhile the rest of society still has to suffer. Nobody is safer with more guns.
Speaking of predicable... there's the unsupportable nonsensical hyperbole that YOU offer in place of any useful addition to the conversation.
 
These gun-rights pissing contest threads are so predictable..


Not half as predictable as what invariably comes out of your mouth.
 
These gun-rights pissing contest threads are so predictable. You guys always try to out name-drop each other. Then you start reciting your favorite amendment. Yawn.

Police officers and federal agents just roll their eyes and laugh. Meanwhile the rest of society still has to suffer. Nobody is safer with more guns.

what are your needs that you attempt to satisfy by pissing and moaning on threads like this?
 
These gun-rights pissing contest threads are so predictable. You guys always try to out name-drop each other. Then you start reciting your favorite amendment. Yawn.

Police officers and federal agents just roll their eyes and laugh. Meanwhile the rest of society still has to suffer. Nobody is safer with more guns.

Not half as predictable as what invariably comes out of your mouth.

The body part seems to me to be a little further south... ;)
 
what are your needs that you attempt to satisfy by pissing and moaning on threads like this?

Threads like this must be what 7th graders bragging about their WoW high score sound like. Everyone posturing and boasting like their accomplished knowledge has any real world application.

On the upside, buying guns and ammo for shooting only cans and paper targets does help the economy.

Meanwhile, back to reality... Red Dawn was just movie, kids, Harry Callahan is fiction.
 
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Threads like this must be what 7th graders bragging about their WoW high score sound like. Everyone posturing and boasting like their accomplished knowledge has any real world application.

On the upside, buying guns and ammo for shooting only cans and paper targets does help the economy.

Meanwhile, back to reality... Red Dawn was just movie, kids, Harry Callahan is fiction.

What? No dig at FOX News in this post? Are you feeling OK?
 
Threads like this must be what 7th graders bragging about their WoW high score sound like. Everyone posturing and boasting like their accomplished knowledge has any real world application.

On the upside, buying guns and ammo for shooting only cans and paper targets does help the economy.

Meanwhile, back to reality... Red Dawn was just movie, kids, Harry Callahan is fiction.

The mugger I put in the ER and in the state penitentiary with one 9mm round to the gut might disagree with you.

What is your purpose being on this thread other than to bait posters who aren't afraid of guns as you seem to be?
 
These gun-rights pissing contest threads are so predictable. You guys always try to out name-drop each other. Then you start reciting your favorite amendment. Yawn.

Police officers and federal agents just roll their eyes and laugh. Meanwhile the rest of society still has to suffer. Nobody is safer with more guns.


Some of us like having protection
 
Some of us like having protection

I do too, it is called the police. Here comes the, "Who is supposed to protect you from them?" To even indicate that you think police would shoot innocent civilians for any reason I think is an insult to our police officers.
 
I do too, it is called the police. Here comes the, "Who is supposed to protect you from them?" To even indicate that you think police would shoot innocent civilians for any reason I think is an insult to our police officers.

The scum in blue wont protect you, they'll beat you, steal from you, harass you and then kill you. In addition the Supreme Court has ruled in the past that the thuggerment is not obligated to protect you.
 
I do too, it is called the police. Here comes the, "Who is supposed to protect you from them?" To even indicate that you think police would shoot innocent civilians for any reason I think is an insult to our police officers.

I had to take protecting my home and family into my own hands so using the skills I developed in the US Army I set up mini claymore mines to activate to the sounds of breaking glass or shattering wood or composite materials, I posted illuminated signs on my property warning people that my home and property are claymore mine protected. When outside of the confines of my home my family all carry hand gernades and know how to pull the pin so far once the gernade has been shown would be muggers and worst have not stayed around to see if the gernade was actually armed. Since this is a public venue I can not tell anyone whether the gernade is just for show or not

It's a dangerous world out there
 
I do too, it is called the police. Here comes the, "Who is supposed to protect you from them?" To even indicate that you think police would shoot innocent civilians for any reason I think is an insult to our police officers.

That's an uninformed assumption, Jryan. The "Protect & Serve" mantra means the community, not the individual. Police will most likely try and protect you when they can but they are not obligated to. Let's do a quick what if. You and/or you family are threatened with bodily harm and violence. Assuming you can call 911 (close to a phone and are able to call), you do. The immediate threat continues to escalate. While waiting for the police to respond within 3 to 10 or more minutes you:

A. Ask the bad guys to hold off until the police arrive.
B. You kiss your wife and family goodbye and you run like hell leaving them to fend for themselves.
C. Panic and plead.
 
I had to take protecting my home and family into my own hands so using the skills I developed in the US Army I set up mini claymore mines to activate to the sounds of breaking glass or shattering wood or composite materials, I posted illuminated signs on my property warning people that my home and property are claymore mine protected. When outside of the confines of my home my family all carry hand gernades and know how to pull the pin so far once the gernade has been shown would be muggers and worst have not stayed around to see if the gernade was actually armed. Since this is a public venue I can not tell anyone whether the gernade is just for show or not

It's a dangerous world out there

It's apparently very dangerous in your mind.
 
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